I know the title is misleading! I clicked on it because I was searching up things like "Heath Ledger alive". And to tessellated lol, it was "Posted on January 28, 2008 10:15am · Filed under: Celebrity Gossips & News" It says right there, you are looking at TODAYS date, they're telling you today is Monday the 22nd of September. Yesterday it said the 21st because it was the 21st. I didn't mean for any of you to get mad. I just wanted to share it with all of you because I thought that it was interesting and I couldn't believe it! And also, I know! In that situation, I would call 911 RIGHT away! I don't know what that woman was thinking! It's common sense to call 911 if a man is laying face down and not breathing! -Kel
Also, here is a better explanation of what happened with the masseuse http://news.lalate.com/2008/01/25/diana-lee-wolozin-pictures-heath-ledgers-masseuse-and-the-911-call/
Good afternoon boys and girls! Today I am reproducing here a comment made by Highlander on the other blog. I find this comment in particular very interesting, mainly because I agree with every one of his statements 100%. Here it is: ------------------------------------- "Why did the medical examiner make a statement naming specific drugs but make a point to refuse to state the amounts that they found?
Why did they also make a point to refuse to state the time of death?
They tell us a story when they name the drugs and state their conclusion about the combination, but it's only a partial story, which makes it a suspicious story. It sounds like a cover-up, but covering up what exactly?
Why was it reported world-wide early on that "there were not enough drugs of any kind" found in the first autopsy to have killed him and therefore it had to have been "natural causes" like unexpected heart failure due to some condition that was never noticed before. That was the story at one point. Then we waited for the toxicology report, which gave them weeks to come up with the story that he had lots of different drugs in him. I just don't buy it. It's a suspicious, made-up sounding, bogus-sounding story.
Why did the investigation into the prescribing doctors lead to no reported conclusion? Was it Mary-Kate who caused the investigation to end? Sure seems like it. It ended when she stared them down and scared them off.
Ordinarily, as time goes by and more information is released and more officials make statements, you'd think the story would become more clear and easier to understand, but not with Heath. Every time something new happens it makes the whole thing less clear and more confusing, and more suspicious.
And if that really was Heath they took out of that apartment, and if they really did find all those drugs in him, who says he took them of his own free will anyway? We weren't there. We don't know what happened. I find it very difficult to believe that "he would be so stupid" as to take all those drugs at the same time, which is what most people think. Unless somebody can tell me a believable story that can convince me Heath would have done that, then I'm not believing it. He could also have been murdered just as easily as any other possibility.
It's unclear to me whether that really was or wasn't Heath that they took out of that apartment. It's unclear to me whether they really did or didn't find those drugs. It's unclear to me if he's dead or alive. What is clear to me is that everything about the story is suspicious. My first words when I heard the news on January 22nd were, "That's impossible," and that's still what I think, eight months later." ------------------------------------- Thank you Highlander, very interesting stuff.
It's all true. If you think of it, if he was to fake his death, he wouldn't want people to think he was an addict. So he made them come up with a story that made it seem like an accident that couldn't be avoided. Think of it, if you were Heath, would you rather people remember you as a guy who was ODing on a bunch of illegal drugs or a guy that was a great man that accidently ODed becuase he was stressed out. I would choose the more pleasant one. It fits so well with the rest of the suspicions.
In the other blog, a question was posed that I think merits discussion: "Doesn't it strike you odd that there aren't any real Oscar contenders yet except for Dark Knight? That certain films are being delayed for released until after the Oscar period?"....Damn good question if you ask me, but what do I know? :D
I also found this website interesting. It discusses the possible 2009 Oscar Nominations, including Heath for Best Supporting Actor. Does anybody know if the nomination announcements are still set for Jan 22 and the ceremony for Feb 22 or will the ceremony be pushed to March as proposed by ABC?
And speaking of the Oscars, LostHighlander nailed it again with a comment posted on the other blog back on 08-30. Here it is: ------------------------------------- The stealth campaign to discredit Heath is starting up again. I used to catch onto this stuff only after it was in full swing, but this time I see the beginning of a new push. Here it is, late in August. The movie award season will start soon, and so now this begins again.
I might not have the order of events right, but I have it about right. The first anti-Heath campaign was the one where the media preached to the public that we were not allowed to even "care," much less to be sad that Heath died. They gave a list of reasons why they would not allow us to be sad. They actually told the public to "stop caring." And then they said the public was probably just faking it anyway, they weren’t really sad, they just wanted attention, and they brought out mental health professionals to back them up.
The second anti-Heath campaign was the drug addict one. They desperately tried to convince the public that Heath was a no-good, irresponsible junkie that we should all hate and not love.
And then the third anti-Heath campaign was the one about his estate, where they insisted that he had hardly any money at all (as if) and had neglected to update his will and left nothing to his daughter. They pushed this hard, trying to make everyone hate him for being a no-good, irresponsible father. They somehow didn’t report what came out later, that Heath had “a complicated web of high-powered Hollywood lawyers, agents, and accountants” and was very well off financially. All those highly-paid professionals don't come cheap and they actually DO something for their pay, they don't "forget" or "neglect" to update their client's will, they just don't publicize it...it's kept quiet and out of the media's attention.
So now it starts all over again. Now comes the campaign to try to prevent Heath from getting any awards for his work in The Dark Knight. Ignoring all Heath’s peers who were so impressed with him, and the critics, and the fans, now comes the campaign to say that he wasn’t a good actor at all, and to say that any award he would get would only be out of pity that he died, which of course they are implying would be dishonest and so that leaves absolutely no reason for Heath to win any awards. That’s the first article quoted below. The second article desperately tries to get the public to STOP going to see The Dark Knight.
I say this is a stealth campaign because it makes no sense that these media people would do this on their own because what they’re saying makes no rational sense. It comes across as a coordinated effort behind the scenes, a “conspiracy” in other words…but why? Who benefits from this? I haven’t figured that out yet.
So, in the words of the Joker, “Here we go…”
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The Yorkshire Post
Will emotion rather than good acting sway Oscars?
29 August 2008
And the big question: will Heath Ledger join the late, great Peter Finch in that sad, exclusive club by winning a posthumous Oscar for playing the Joker in The Dark Knight? It might happen, but it will be Hollywood sentiment that clinches it rather than anything to do with genuinely great acting.
Is Heath Ledger the Reason for The Dark Knight's Success?
Posted By: Luke
So with The Dark Knight still raking in the cash Warner Bros. is laughing all the way to the bank. But the ultimate question is whether or not they would be if Heath Ledger had not died.. Would the early reports of Heaths performance had been so glowing? We will never know. But I will end this by saying before you pull out your wallet to support The Dark Knight again.. Think twice.
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15511.html ------------------------------------- Wao! All I can say is...right on!! :D
But I read that experts say The Dark Knight will at least win 1 award. I guess you can trust them. I believe it will get plenty of others. Do you know that incredibly bad movie Norbit? With Eddy Murphy? It was nominated for Best Make Up. I thought that was a joke. Compared to that, TDK will definitley win it.
I am not happy today. Apparently some guy has popped up suggesting a Joker spin off with the character being played by some other actor...has the world gone mad?!!
Good Lord, somebody put out that idiot before he ACTUALLY does give Warner Bros an idea =S ( oh, and J? - if even you can tell it's just plain crazy, I guess it is... =) Haha..)
Seriously though - I'd be happy if nobody took on that part ever again, thank-you! Can't imagine the pain of having to go through some messed up poor replica of that masterpiece that is HEATH'S performance....
Muffin, darling I did not know you had such talent for music...I just heard the killer mix you made for me, how sweet!! Kids, if you want to know what I am talking about check out Muffin's mix here:
I don't know... maybe its because we don't have a lot of new evidence to talk about anymore. I think we're all just waiting for something to happen so we can talk about it.
In the mean time, why not have some fun? I found a little screen play about the subject. Now, before you read it just bear in mind that the aim of the play is to expose how sick and twisted our media has become. Personally, I found the ending a bit farfetched, but the rest of it is pretty enjoyable. With that in mind, here is the link:
I hear the insurance company wants to take depositions from all the people involved...I wonder, will Mary Kate finally say something about this matter or will she manage to dodge the bullet once more? :D
I have a question: Is it usual that people (or especially celebrities) cremate their deceased relatives? Or is it more common to bury them?
Cause if it's faked cremating would make a whole lot of sense so no crazy fan would get the idea of digging the corpse :D and if there was no corpse it would be pretty scandalous. [I know this seems farfetched]
And oh this investigation thing: This is what I meant with the post that we're not making stuff up. Things happen for itself..
"...I wonder, will Mary Kate finally say something about this matter or will she manage to dodge the bullet once more? :D"
God i hope she says something. Ive been waiting for that dumb ho to say something about this forever. There's no way she couldn't have had something to do with it.
You know what REALLY bugs me about this? You will think I am insane but I will say it anyway...anybody here plays chess? I do, been in a few tournaments too. Chess is a strategy game. If you want to win, you need to be patient, bold, calculating and most of all be willing to sacrifice. Heath played chess. His father, who I consider a very intelligent man, was never able to beat him. You are going to tell me that a mind that was able to play and win a chess game, is going to OD on prescription drugs? Somehow, I find the idea very insulting to my own intelligence. That was not an accident. In my mind there are only two possibilities and I know Believer will agree with me on this one: either it was planned by Heath (in which case, my hat goes off to you dude, you are the man!) or it was planned by somebody else (meaning, he was murdered). I know, option number two sounds gruesome, but let's not forget how easy it is to make an OD murder seem like an accident... Now who would want to do something like that and why? I don't know, but it does not eliminate the possibility since there is so much stuff about his private life that we don't know. If he did plan it and he is out there somewhere, I seriously think he won't come back. IF he really did this, he's retired for good. Some people say he wouldn't do that to his daughter, but how do you know if he does not see his family in secret? Michelle is very private, we don't know what she does 24/7...it is a possibility. Call me crazy, but that's what I think.
Im not gonna call you crazy because what you're saying is definiatly believeable. Hell, for all we know it might be right! But inside I hope you're wrong, because i really want him to still be alive but come back. And the murdered idea... well honestly I never even thought about that before! It could be true too, but why do you think anyone would want to kill him?
Muffin, I don't know who would do such a thing or why but the fact is that he is not the first hollywood figure to die young in suspicious circumstances. For example:
- James Dean, 24, died on September 30, 1955, after a car crash on a highway near Paso Robles, California.
- Sharon Tate, 26, was murdered on August 9, 1969, by followers of Charles Manson in Los Angeles.
- Freddie Prinze, 22, died on January 29, 1977, after shooting himself in Los Angeles.
- Jon-Erik Hexum, 26, died on October 18, 1984, after accidentally shooting himself with a prop gun in Los Angeles.
- Rebecca Schaeffer, 21, was murdered on July 18, 1989, by stalker Robert John Bardo in Los Angeles.
- Brandon Lee, 28, died on March 31, 1993, after accidentally being shot on the set of The Crow in Wilmington, North Carolina.
- River Phoenix, 23, died on October 31, 1993, from a drug overdose outside a nightclub in Los Angeles.
- David Strickland, 29, died on March 22, 1999, after hanging himself in a hotel room in Las Vegas.
- Jonathan Brandis, 27, died on November 12, 2003, from injuries he suffered after hanging himself in Los Angeles.
- Brad Renfro, 25, died on January 15, 2008, the day after reportedly spending an evening drinking with friends.
In all these cases, speculation has sprung about the inconsistencies in each scenario. Some people argue that people create conspiracy theories because of their refusal to let go of a person they felt connected to thru their artistic work. However, the inconsistencies are still there, demanding an answer. If you google the subject you will find enourmous amounts of theories about Heath's death. But over time, people forget and go about their business...
Quote: "In my mind there are only two possibilities and I know Believer will agree with me on this one: either it was planned by Heath (in which case, my hat goes off to you dude, you are the man!) or it was planned by somebody else (meaning, he was murdered)."
Joker, you know me too well (haha). Yes, I DO agree with you - heath certainly didn't strike me as the kind of person who'd OD on medicines. I mean excuse me, but that just sounds too dumb to me. Yes, I too have been thinking about the possibility of him being murdered, if that's the case, athough i firstly still firmly believe it's all just an act. I mean, it just sounds too stupid for it to have been an accident: are they actually expecing us to believe that heath didn't have ANY doctors following him with his medicines, and telling him "whoa,no man, don't mix that!" ? come on, people! he was a celebrity for God's sake! You'd think he had SOMEBODY worrying about his health, expecially if, as reports have said, he was taking the medicines from some time..... Tzk.
I'm just worried he'll never show up again =(. I was watching a clip of Brothers Grimm the other day, and I am telling you, I miss him and I cannot believe he's gone. He can't have.
Oh, and Deak? You're absolutely right. If only they'd prove us definitely he was gone, I'd let it go. Period. But that's not happening! And until it does...I'm gonna keep on believing ;)
I don't think Heath is hiding away forever. That would mean he would have to stay hidden for the rest of his life. He can never go around in public because someone will recognize him and he'll be even more famous. If he's alive, I believe he'll come back.
^ Deak, you've got a point, but what if he's managed to completely change his looks physically, so he's much less recognizable per se? also remember that if people continue believing he's just dead, he's probably not going to be pointed to... i mean we're speculating here and it's one thing, but can you really imagine a "normal" person who doesn't know about all this possibly seeing him and thinking, "hey, wait, isn't that the guy that passed away last january?" he'd be pretty safe actually. (except if he came across one of us, of course! :D)
Here, here. I believe that if he is alive, he is gone out of the limelight for good and he has changed his looks to keep his identity safe. He is, after all, an actor...if he changes his phisique and talks and acts differently, who will recognize him? It's not that hard to do, you know.
Ordinary people can pull it off, why can't he? I mean, he said it himself:
Quote 1: Heath: "I only do this because I'm having fun. The day I stop having fun, I'll just walk away. … There's so much I want to discover." -- Vanity Fair (August, 2000)
Quote 2: Mr. Ledger, however, also called it [playing the Joker in The Dark Knight] “the most fun I’ve ever had, or probably ever will have, playing a character.” – The New York Times (March, 2008)
And then his last radio interview where he said: "Then after that, I'll drop to the ground dead [laughs] and hibernate for a year."
...if those are not hints, I don't know what they are...coincidences? So many of them?
Guys, I found something that seems extremely odd to me, maybe somebody can explain it. Look at the video on the link below. It's the last footage available from Heath on the set of The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus in London. Look at it and see if you can figure out what is going on, because I honestly can't.
I know this is random lol! but as 10 Things I Hate About You is going to be 10 years old next year!!! there is talk that they are going to bring it to the small screen. The story is going to be about Kat & Bianca starting High School. I dont know if it will be any good tho! here's the link. http://www.cinematical.com/2008/10/10/news-bites- 10-things-heads-to-tv-haters-and-more/ Also Billy Bob Thornton said in a recent interview that Heath hated the Hollywood thing. That he went out of his way to shun Hollywood. He just wanted to be left alone to do his thing like any normal guy but he couldn't do that anymore when he got famous. It used to freak him out having people coming up taking photos etc. He preferred it when no one recognised him. I have a feeling that there is something funny going on here. The body thing is weird, also the fact that guards were asked to watch his body in the funeral home. Dont think they did that for anyone else! There's just too many things that dont add up.
Well it looks like they are running after Heath, trying to stop him and shoot at him. Like he's an criminal. A woman screaming 'STOP'.
Yeah yesterday in Germany there was a little scandal at an award show. Just a man wasn't accepting the award for his life's work. But after that on a news magazine they literally said: " The scandal turnt this tv event into good television. This is what people wanna see. " Sure this is small in comparison with Heath but I'm pretty sure the media would react the same way if there was a 'SCANDAL' at the oscars. Just more..shocked. =)
Fanta, I was reading the comments below that link you posted and I found it interesting that somebody mentioned that Heath sent a text message to MK the day he died. Does anybody have a link about this?
I have been reading this blog for about a month now but I have never commented because I am a mother of 5 and I just feel funny having the same thoughts as young people.
People have been saying that if he did fake his death that he might have changed his look, voice, face.....we would still never see him again.
I don't think he will show up at an awards show. Or an other Batman. If he did fake his death I hope he is OK.
There doesn't seem to be anything going on here. You're right Deak. No one seems to be coming on here anymore and posting... where are you guys? Hunter
^^^^^ eh I dont think he is going to show up for the Oscars. Im not a hater its just i dont want this person above me to get their hopes up high. I think if he did fake his death he wouldn't turn up at the Oscars. And as someone said in the other Heath Ledger is not dead blog, it's not that easy to fake your death, the police, the people who registered his death, morticions, pathologists etc wouldn't risk faking someones death for any money. Just say he did turn up at the Oscars what would be the logic in faking his death:S If someone fakes their death that's it they are gone. Also there were other actors who died this year. Did they fake their deaths too. There were autopsy pics of heath on the net. Are they the pics you want to see of him just to prove he is dead. Wouldn't that be upsetting. I didn't save them. I did see them and they weren't nice. Someone said they were fake but i dont think so. I wouldn't want anyone here to see them. Again Im not a hater. Im just putting stuff out there for people to think about. If he did fake his death then i hope it all works out for him. I hope he is happy wherever he is. The other guy who does the blog obviously put a lot of thought into different ways that Heath could have faked his death. I have to give him props for that but I have read all the stuff and looked at it logically. i dont think he is going to come back for the Oscars. I wish he weren't dead but seeing dead pics of him did shock me. They were on photobucket. Anyway peace.
Ewww I dont want to see dead pics of Heath. Seriously who would post autopsy pics of Heath on the net or here. I really hope he gets the Oscar for TDK!
I googled it too and didn't come up with anything. Also If there were pics of him dead they would have shown up by now. So...Unless i see them I'm not going to believe it.
We're rolling up on nine months since Heath left the public eye, and still no one is stepping forward with the truth as to what really happened that fateful day in January.
We've heard nothing from Mary Kate...nothing from the masseuse....nothing from anyone.
Why hasn't anyone requested an interview with anyone involved with his death??? Why is this so hush hush?
When is this charade going to stop and someone finally admit that Heath did not die, that he's hiding out somewhere?
I've said it before and I will say it again: it is not the first time an actor has faked his death, intentionally or unintentionally. I've posted examples in the past, but this time I want to draw attention to a particular case involving the movie industry and publicity. Look at this link:
Go down the list of names to Luca Barbareschi. It says, quote: "Luca Barbareschi was one of four actors who the Italian police believed had been murdered in the making of the 1980 horror film Cannibal Holocaust. So realistic was the film that shortly after it was released its director Ruggero Deodato was arrested for murder. The actors had signed contracts to stay out of the media for a year in order to fuel rumours that the film was a snuff movie. The court was only convinced that they were alive when the contracts were cancelled and the actors appeared on a television show as proof."
In this case, there was a legal contract between the director and the actors that specifically allowed the actors to fake their deaths without being legally penalized for doing so upon their return...deja vu anyone?
that's not him. that guy's nose is different from heath's. also, heath had more defined arms. and tattoos. i can see the similarity between heath and the man in the picture, but it's clearly not him.
He's probably going to appear when he wins an award and he will just walk up grab the award and say "Why so serious?" 7/15/2008 7:11 PM Anonymous said...
There seem to be alot of coincidences in the movie to real life. The joker brought in to the room in a body bag and the police commissioner even fakes his death. I think this could be the greatest stunt in the history of hollywood. 7/18/2008 2:35 PM Anonymous said...
i think your right... i've heard people have seen him with a shaved head and glasses with his daughter since his death. 7/18/2008 3:36 PM Anonymous said...
Excuse me... as much as I love Heath/ Joker...
It would NOT be the greatest stunt because controversy about a celebrity has already taken place... oh about 15 years ago maybe? I dunno...
Ever heard of Andy Kaufman. ? That was whole career... practical jokes... like the joker I guess but without killing people... and such... Andy kaufman basically went a bit too far then gained everyones love and trust back... then decided to say he had cancer... and died... but many... MANY even his family say it was a practical joke and now they have no clue where he is. Research it.
So sorry Ledger... you'd be second in line for this... except it may be more popular due to the fact that it is now and now 20 years ago. hahaha
It says anonymous... but I don't care..
-Mel Morley, NY, 17 7/18/2008 4:33 PM Andrea said...
I could see this happening. I don't believe it is a publicity stunt. He might have faked his own death, knowing that this movie, with all the hype, would make viewers see him as a phenomenal actor, and up his "celebrity status quo". You know how the media is, they will follow his every move. He seemed to be a generally private person, and seemed to like living a normal life.
His ex-wife is an actress, which could result in her being in on it too. If he never came back then it wouldn't be a stunt, and the public wouldn't be able to react.
I agree with the sychroncities with the movie and the reality of his life. 7/19/2008 1:03 PM Anonymous said...
I think it is a great possibility that Ledger is faking his death. I mean, it would be damn near impossible to successfully pull it off but If any body has that ability it would be him. Maybe he just needed a break from being in the limelight of superstardom. With his performance in The Dark Knight he will no doubtedly be considered one of the best actors of all time and maybe he just didn't want to deal with that in his personal life so he rigged up this stunt. Unlikely, but I would not be suprised.
-Mike Nasty 7/19/2008 1:08 PM Anonymous said...
yeah after seeing The Dark Knight I began to seriously, seriously wonder I mean what are the actual chances that there would be all those "fake" deaths in the movie and then Heath just drops dead of a drug overdose plus why didn't the maid simply call 911 instead of calling little Michelle Tanner from full house yeah yeah they had to clean up the crime scene but still there were no charges pressed. 7/19/2008 5:46 PM Anonymous said...
wait until the 27th of july then you'll all see :D be good little clowns now! 7/20/2008 1:43 AM Anonymous said...
Heath's death was faked. I can't tell you why but it was for a much more convoluted justification than you all seem to have fabricated. His discourse brought about was instead to protect and insure the safety of himself and presently unaware family. Unwillingness to reveal my identity shall only measure the length in time to which this entire dilemma consists. 7/20/2008 2:44 AM Anonymous said...
they're gonna make another movie... they never showed what happened to hi at the end... 7/20/2008 4:13 AM Anonymous said...
After spending too much time after the movie online about this, I can say that 7/27 makes sense for a re-emergence or clue.
I don't want to say more...
I can see now that its all part of the plan... 7/20/2008 9:31 PM
There is proof that he is dead and there is proof that he's not. It's hard to decide. On the one hand all the signs are there that he is dead. The post mortum and the funeral and his death cert and being on the records for the cemetary. But then all the running around on the night of his death. The fact that the masseuse didn't call an ambulance immediately, the whole Mary Kate thing and also, the fact that a young man died young and there was no investigation into it. Also how can someone "accidently" overdose on all those drugs. The Doctors who prescribed those drugs.. is nothing going to be done to them? Also all the secrecy. I read the other blog and he makes a lot of interesting points there. It could happen. No one ever saw the body apart from the body bag and that looked suspicious. There are so many questions that will never be answered. I dont think he will come back. If he did fake his death I'm not surprised. He was getting a hard time. I just hope he is happy.
Yes, but what about the life insurance policy for Matilda? Do you think Heath would commit insurance fraud so Matilda can have $10M. It seems unlikely because Matilda's already getting a $20M estate. I used to think maybe he was alive but I don't think so anymore after the 3 actors paying out money and then the life insurance policy. I realize nothing has been paid out yet as it's undergoing investigation but Heath could get into serious trouble for insurance fraud if he is alive if they eventually do pay it out.
I don't see the point in him faking his own death with this in mind. I'm not saying he didn't fake his own death cause I guess he could be under the witness protection program but I think it is highly unlikely.
Yeah he wouldn't go under witness protection just to escape fame. He wouldn't do anything to hurt Matilda. What would she think of him faking his death like that. It would be very hard for a 3 year old to keep a secret like that. The FEDS, etc wouldn't go to all that trouble just to fake his death. Also as the previous person said he wouldn't commit insurance fraud so Matilda could have $10M. I thought at first he did fake his death. But it's looking increasingly unlikely. I know there's talk on the boards about him faking his death and he will turn up at the Oscars, Mary Kate had something to do with. There is something going on there but i dont think he faked his death. I see people saying I wont believe it, he cant be dead, I dont want to believe he is gone. I think the time has come to accept that he's gone. It is sad. Im just stating my opinion if people dont agree then fine. It's hard when someone who is young and has all he had dies so suddenly. People don't want to accept it. But I dont think he's coming back.
Heath's death was faked. I can't tell you why but it was for a much more convoluted justification than you all seem to have fabricated. His discourse brought about was instead to protect and insure the safety of himself and presently unaware family. Unwillingness to reveal my identity shall only measure the length in time to which this entire dilemma consists. 7/20/2008 2:44 AM
This is the post that made me believe it. I read the first page of this blog so often... The last few days I read so maby articles about the fact that scandals are the things that people love to see and that it's the most importand thing in the media. I think everybody would love it (except emos). I'm sure that wouldn't be the problem.
he's dead. he's dead. he's dead. two people made excellent points on here about insurance fraud, and it's very true. one of them also made a good point that heath would never do this to matilda. some of you say that he still sees her, despite being hidden away. okay... let's say he's alive and secretly seeing her... you would think that she'd say something. what three year old can remain quiet about almost anything? seriously guys let's think of the [low] probability of this happening... he shows up at the oscars after faking his death for a YEAR? a YEAR. no. he's dead.
Rest in Peace Heath. I hate to say it but i agree with the above. He wouldn't do that and then turn up at the Oscars. Who knows if he will get nominated? Also he wouldn't hurt Matilda. It would be totally disrespectful to his fans to do that. Also his family couldn't carry it off. I dont mean any disrespect to anyone here but i think people need to accept that. I actually put a few questions on the Heath Ledger is not dead blog and the guy that was doing it deleted it. Free speech huh! I think his other blog is about the use of pot so that probably explains a few things there! I think its good that people can come on here and post their views. The person who posted that comment on the 07/20 saying that Heath faked his death, was just messing with peoples minds. Same as the 7/27 guy whoever that was. If he didn't want to be famous anymore he could have just dropped out of sight. He did for a year. Other actors have done it before him. Why go to all that trouble? Michelle wouldn't have let him do that to his daughter. He wouldn't have done it to her. There isn't any conspiracy theories going on.
Most of the Anonymous posts come from the same person. I don't know what is so hard about registering and giving people a profile to look at but whatever. If things get hairy, we'll just lock it up again. :D
Geeze Deak you were giving out that the forum was disappointing and when people are posting you guys are getting all riled up about it. How do you know the posts are from the same person :S They're not spamming they are just airing their opinions. I know the Anonymous thingy was taken off because of spamming but the page got boring because no one was posting anything. Some people want to air their opinions anonymously. The forum ain't about you guys. Other people can come on and if they want to come on anonymously and state their opinions then respect. Im not coming on here to start a fight but I for one like to read the blog and if i feel like inputting anonymously then I will. There have been a couple of good points aired here recently over the whole insurance thing. It would be more detrimential for Heath to fake his death if it meant Matilda would get hurt and if he ended up in jail. Like someone said Matilda is 3 and if she was seeing her father she couldn't keep it a secret.
Two letters for the anonymous: IP... cheers mate! :D
I'm the person who wrote that comment at 1.55 pm. What do you mean by IP:S Do you know what Joker you're not worth wasting my time over. You seem to be a bit of a childish bully who likes putting other people down either because you feel the need to or if they dont agree with your opinions. This isn't your blog it's for everyone and like I said if i feel like leaving an Anonymous comment then I will. This blog doesn't seem to be about Heath anymore it's about you guys. It's like you're in a little clique and only you guys are allowed to add to it. I know there was a lot of spamming going on earlier but maybe the reason why people aren't coming on to this blog is because there is nothing new to add or to see. It seems to be the same people saying the same things over and over again.It's tiring and boring. You have made it clear that if someone doesn't agree with your opinions that they shouldn't be on this blog,then you know what you can keep this pathetic blog. You do gang up on people and say leave this blog. It's one sided like the other heathledgerisnotdeadblog. Fine I wont bother posting here anymore. Oh & FYI I wasn't the one posting all the Anonymous comments so stop thinking the worst all the time. I'm sure Joker you'll have some smart comment thought up, you usually do anyway. It's probably how you get people to look up to you. And before the rest of you guys start on saying Im attacking the clown I'm not, I'm just sick of the way he can't handle a coversation in a mature way that he has to stoop to smart comments to make himself look good. It's sad the way people are going on and saying he faked his death HES DEAD!! get over it. Stop trying to fool yourselves into thinking he's still alive, still seeing Matilda etc. I'm reading these comments from people here and it seems desperate like you are holding on to the fact that he's out there somewhere. Why be obsessive over him. He died 9 months ago. He's never coming back. Stop trying to hold onto that. If you want to believe it fine. But you're getting your hopes up over nothing. Other people are posting here saying he's dead. Move on.
Yeah the Joker's just kidding around! I haven't seen any posts that he/she made that shows any bullying going on. As fanta 22 said Why so serious? Here's something to lighten the mood! :D
Anonymous, I can see how my light mood could easily be misconstrued as childish, so if I have offended you in any way, I am sorry. And FYI, IP is a computer related term that would explain how it is possible to know who is posting a comment, even if it is "Anonymous". To everybody else, please forgive me if I spend less time than usual here from now on. I will keep watching the blog to make sure nobody abuses the anonymous feature, but otherwise I will let you guys keep posting since the conversation seems to have picked up. See you around kids! :D
Aww Joker don't go. We all like you ;( I know I haven't been posting here this long but I think you're funny.
The Joker Rocks!
They are showing Casanova on TV this weekend. I have it on DVD like I have most of Heaths movies. But I'll probably watch it. They seem to be showing his movies recently on TV.
What happened to REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH? All I've seen on this blog is when people speculate he's alive, that's the only thing they really wanna hear. When someone comes up with evidence to support his death, some of you seem to be deaf. I agree with the above anonymous post.
We consider opinions. We still may disagree. I wasn't being mean, all i was saying is that i didn't feel like going through so many long comments. You were fine till the last couple sentences of your long post. We've said it before, if nothing happens by feb. 22 we'll prolly just forget this whole thing. Until then we're just killing time.
yo everyone watch two hands with heath ledger great movies its on youtube he wus such a great actor nice action movie the ending remined me of dark knight with the robbery check it out
Here is the latest from Heathledgerisnotdeadblogspot ::A lot of good questions and theories from my last post....I'll try to address them.
Witness protection as the reason he faked his death....I really doubt that, but anything is possible....there aren't any rumors out there floating around about him being involved in some kind of underworld involvement or anything, because if he was it would have been leaked out to the public by now.
As for faking his death and not being able to leave the U.S., if it's easy enough for an illegal to come across the border and get into the U.S., why can't Heath cross the border in secret, then fly to Australia or New Zealand? He could have purchased a new identity, he certainly has the money to do so, or if Christopher Nolan was in on it he certainly has the money to do so and have Heath removed from the country and hidden away somewhere.
As for faking his death and his return being "suicide"..how would that be suicide? Can you imagine if Heath returned, what it would do for ticket sales of The Dark Knight? People who hadn't seen the movie yet would flock to theaters to see how this mastermind who fooled the public could have played such a pivotal role. The movie would be the greatest grossing movie of all time, probably never to be surpassed by any motion picture we would ever see in our lifetime. Maybe to Hollywood he would draw their ire, but to someone like a Chris Nolan I would only see dollar signs.
As for the life insurance and fraud, how do we know he really had a life insurance policy that was cashed in on? He could have had a fake insurance policy under the name of a trust fund that was disbursed at his order to his daughter and have it made to look like it was a life insurance policy payout...all part of the deception scheme. Why make it look like you don't care about your child and have nothing if you die when instead you can make it look like you provided for her in death?
As for why Heath faked his death, I think that a lot of it had to do with backlash from Brokeback Mountain, and he wanted to see just what the public would do with him if he was simply gone, and now that he's seen what they have done with him with his role as the Joker, he will reappear. Brokeback Mountain is a distant memory, Heath will forever be associated with the Joker, and that is exactly what he wanted to do...erase the memory of being a gay cowboy and replace it with the memory of being a anarchistic maniac. Think about it...Will Smith played a homosexual in Six Degrees of Separation...does anyone really remember that role? No, most of us remember him as Fresh Prince of Bel Air or Agent J.
Sorry if this comment is a bit long. Any thoughts on this??
I don't have a journal to log in and comment on heathledgerisnotdead.blogspot.com so I figured I'd say it here!
Look at this link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185937/trivia
I mainly want you to look at this fact: "Before the film was released, the three main actors were listed as "missing, presumed dead" on the IMDb."
It's possible that this could have happened with Heath too, I mean, why not? It was legal for them to do that to those actors and then have them appear to be alive after all.
I think the reason those three actors was missing was for the film. The whole premise of the film was that it actually happened that these guys were actually filming a documentary. People didn't know if it was true or not because there was nothing heard about them after it was seen. But it was a cleverly done. Their bodies weren't found and a funeral wasn't held for them. It is an interesting point to make though.
It's Matilda's birthday today. She's 3. It must be really hard for her and her mom Michelle Williams. Someone on IMDB said that last year she was celebrating it with her mom and dad who were getting on well that day. What a difference a year makes. Matilda is starting to be aware of things like that. She'll want to know why her daddy isn't around anymore. So sad ;( RIP Heath.
hummm would be cool if he was still alive. and it wold make sense because he REALLY hated being in the public eye so much. that would be the only way to get the pop off your butt. if he is still alive kudos heath if not rest is peace. ether way those damn people aren't following him around anymore
By the way, the comment above as me too... i dont know why this thing isnt taking my livejournal account, but i've come back to see if theres any new news.... i guess nothing?
No there's nothing new ;( This blog seems be slowing down. There's not as much comments as there was when it started. I hope people don't forget about it.
okay guys, i find this to be very strange but a while ago i read somewhere that on the dark knight's blu-ray and dvd's, there will be a special feature of a comic book that will be animated. the name of it being "mad love"... what would be the point of that, exactly? are they trying to hint to us that there will be something related to harley in the sequel? maybe harley quinn and joker? i found it quite interesting, to be honest. here is the source: http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_DVD-info-TheNetherlands_9-18-08.html
by the way, the comic "mad love" is purely about harley quinn's love for the joker
Australia has dropped plans to name a theatre after actor Heath Ledger after deciding he never fulfilled his potential. After his death, West Australian premier Alan Carpenter stood next to Ledger's father Kim and announced a new venue in his hometown of Perth would be named the Heath Ledger Theatre. Mr Ledger said he was honoured and intensely proud.
But the government has now scrapped the plans for the new $91m (pounds 36m) performing arts complex after the star, just four months after they were announced.
The new premier Colin Barnett said the decision had been reversed and Ledger would be commemorated in another part of the complex.
Ledger died from an accidental prescription drugs overdose in New York in January. He was 28.
Mr Barnett said: "He was a young actor who had some great successes, and I have no doubt was headed for an outstanding career.
"But he lost his life at a very young age, so we never saw the true achievement that Heath Ledger may have made." I call bullshit.
The real reason they aren't going to build the theater:
You can't dedicate a theater in memory of someone who isn't dead yet. I bet someone from Heath's camp told the theater not to do it and to make up some lame-ass excuse...
Heath was Oscar-nominated, acted in two Oscar-nominated movies (Monster's Ball and Brokeback Mountain), and has redefined the Joker.
Hmm i read that blog Deak. As other people have said how does he know its not either one of us or someone trying to wind him up. I'm going to take it with a pinch of salt. Anyone can have a youtube account and email people saying all sorts of stuff. I think it's someone messing to be honest.
That's why I'm keeping my eye on it because we really could just be getting worked up over nothing. I wanna know why the Blogger thinks it's so significant.
IMO i think we are getting worked up over nothing Deak. The Blogger isn't going to give out any information about who sent it to him. How do we even know that it was sent to him? He could be just posting that to keep peoples interest in the blog. I've noticed recently he seems to be pulling at straws. His points seem to be getting weaker like Heath faking his death over his role in Brokeback, as other people have stated he couldn't do something like that and keep in contact with Matilda shes only 3 she wouldn't be able to keep that a secret. Also the whole theatre thing has an explanation. There is a link to a story explaining that Heaths dad was annoyed over that. It's nearly a whole year now. I'm starting to think he is dead. If the Blogger knows something he should tell us instead of posting something like that and not responding to peoples questions. Someone said that if Heath is dead then the whole Blog seems to be a bit disrespectful of Heath's memory, his family and his fans. There are people out there who want to believe Heath is alive. There are inconsistencies with the whole MK massuese thing but that could have been a tragic accident. I'll keep reading the Blogger but I'm not holding my breath anymore.
Hmm here's something interesting now from this Blogger! http://heathledgerisnotdead.blogspot.com/2008/11/another-message.html
Is is true :S I dont know. I have to wonder why someone would go to the trouble of emailing him and not the Doktor Freedom guy. Surely if there is a cover up then I dont think anyone would be emailing him about it. Again I'm suspicious. This sounds like a line from Fox Mulder in the XFiles. I dont think anything is going to happen. I think it is someone who is just kidding with this guy. Again he hasn't given us any proof he got these emails. Seems a bit strange that he decides to log in and gets another email... I don't know. I'm beginning to think this guy is like that Docktor Freedom guy. I dont know his reasoning. That's my opinion if people agree with it fine if not then whatever.
Well that Doktor Freedom guy I read somewhere in his youtube account that he is mentally unstable. It looked like his sister responded by saying not to listen to him because he is retarded (although I really hate using that word) and shouldn't be trusted for information. If he really believes it, I can understand why he would put that bag over his head like that.
At least the blogger guy seems to have mental clarity (although a bit in denial I think). I agree he has just been grasping as straws lately and the only thing or "EVIDENCE" he has is coincidences. Coincidences don't stand up and it seems to me that he is really gone now.
As opposed to Doktor Freedom ROFL. He is one crazy dude. He said some bodyguards who killed someone who took a photo of "Heath" at his funeral lol! Seriously the bag over head thing is crazy. But I kinda knew he had mental problems. People shouldn't take seriously. That blogger dude is very clever. He put his ideas across well at the start. But as with the above post it is probably just coincidence or fate idk. But he has this idea that there is some big conspiracy going on there. I dont think there is. I think Heath is dead unfortunately ;(
Yeah that dude IS crazy. I didn't even buy that crap, he looks too tiny to be a bodyguard anyway. But the guy who has the blog on the other site has some pretty good ideas and theorys. And they make sense too. He seems like a pretty smart guy.
I've been reading this blog since it started and the other HeathLedgerisnotdead Blogger. He is a smart guy who does put his ideas across well. But lately I've been wondering about him. I've read that he has been getting emails from "someone" who said you are right. Anyone could be sending these emails from their You Tube. I feel like he really wants to believe this guy and the rest of us do as well. But I dont know. I know people want to believe that he faked his death and will turn up at the Oscars and this will have been a bad joke. I wanted it too! But what if it hasn't? What if he really is dead? I dont want to be clutching at straws and waiting for February and being really disappointed and going through it all again. Some of the stuff the Blogger said made sense but they could just be coincidences. I'm starting to think that it was just a tragic accident and no one was to blame. Yes the masseuse should have called 911 instead of calling Mary Kate. That was wrong of her. I do agree with that but looking the whole scenario, faking a death would be fraud, the whole autopsy thing, the insurance etc. Could someone really pull all that off. The Governmenet would have gotten involved. Would they risk their jobs for an Austrailian actor. If he really wanted to quit acting he could have done it like Joaquin Phoenix did. Also think about Matilda, how would he feel knowing that by faking his death that she could get hurt by all this. Matilda is a 3 year old. If and it's a slight if he is in contact with her how could she keep it a secret. Most 3 year olds would understand a secret like that. She would have surely said something by now. I'm starting to think that he isn't going to come back after all. I hope I don't get flamed for saying this. I have enjoyed reading this blog. But I dont think he faked his death. I kind of feel bad in a way that I hoped he had faked his death. Maybe I just wasn't ready to accept that this brilliant, gorgeous, talented young man was no more. That we weren't going to see him again. Hear his voice. It was a big shock for me because he is younger than me. I wished he had faked his death for our sakes and his daughers. Imagine growing up without a dad in your life. IMO i think he's gone. I have to start accepting that. It is sad and heartbreaking but its true. He was totally brilliant as the Joker and he will live on in his films. RIP Heath!!
Heath Ledger is not dead. He is locked in my basement along with Elvis, Tupac, Biggie, and Santa Claus. Every night I hear them scream for help (and Biggie screams for food). Elvis is in the best shape of his life. Tupac b caput. As for Santa, he doesn't give a fuck because he is worshipped now more than ever and he grows fat on the sacrifices we make to feed his commercialistic soul.
Heath Ledger is dead. Faking your own death is not only illegal, it is a FELONY. Also, here are the facts -
-The people that would love it being a hoax are 16 year old kids, who probably thought he wasn't even making another movie after TDK. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS - AND QUOTE ME - Heath ledger was filming another movie when he died. Do you know ow many people it takes to make a film? Not only would TDK have to be in on it, the new movie he was filming's ENTIRE STAFF would.
- HEATH LEDGER WOULD NOT BE VIEWED AS CLEVER FOR HIS ACTIONS. The ENTIRE movie realm as well as NORMAL people would see the act as disgraceful, and would condemn him forever. People who have LOST LOVED ONES, as I have, would view the act as a mockery of death, which is a painful, uniquely terrible experience for those close to it.
-THE JOKER CHARACTER WAS NOT THE REASON FOR HEATH'S PASSING. That was a hype created by NAIVE PEOPLE, just like those of you who think that this death is a hoax. Heath's intense PREPARATION (key word, preparation) Was so that he was not criticized for any similarities between himself and jack's joker.
So GROW UP. A death hoax, especially one that is for the sake of cleverness or hype, would not be possible, let alone a good move in ANY WAY for those involved. Have some respect for a good actor, and let him die.
guys I am sorry i was so busy lately I didnt check your blog in a while but I'm with you with my body, heart and soul. So I hope everyone is doing well and I'm glad you are still posting, you have my support. I hope Heath is doing well as well, will be around here, let me know how I can help.
Re the Doktor Freedom youtube vids. The person posting those comments saying that she was his sister was just messing. If you check their profile it shows they were from Ireland! Also they left a profile on one of those guys vids saying that they were present at Heaths Autopsy so I wouldn't take any notice of that. IMO i don't think that Heath faked his death. But I do think the masseause should be brought in for questioning. I mean WTF why ring MK Ho-lson and not 911! If I was doing a massage at some guys place and I found him unconcious the first thing I would do would be to ring 911 and the cops. Why ring Mk for:S Unless there were other types of drugs there and she didn't want the cops finding out about them. It does seem strange that a 28 year old man got those drugs and died from taking them. Maybe Mary Kate gave them to him. I still don't understand why no one was questioned about it. Heath seemed to be an intelligent young man who had so much going for him. The frustrating thing is we are never going to see his potential. Also the masseause wasn't licenced so how did she end up working for Heath? Unless MK knew her and recommended her to Heath. There is some sort of cover up going on here. I wonder will we ever find out about it. Sorry for the long post.
Oops me again! Sorry I forgot to add this to the previous comment that I made. The Blogger that everyone is talking about hasn't updated his page for 2 weeks now. I wonder is he running out of theories too? What are people's thoughts on this? Do you think someone actually emailed him with some information and he has to investigate it before coming up with another entry or did he even get an email? He hasn't given out any other information apart from what he said on his entry. It seems strange that he is taking what the person said on board. I mean how does he know it's not one of us or someone who read his entries trying to trip him up or mess around with his head? There seems to be a lot of coincidences but no real answers? When people have asked him about it he hasn't gotten back to them. He logged onto his YouTube a week ago so maybe he hasn't gotten anything new to add.
hahaha! this board is just about dead now! so is the blogger who used to update every two weeks. I think people are FINALLY realizing how absolutely RIDICULOUS it is that heath would fake his death.
i just don't get people who say it's ridiculous to belive heath is dead,but they keep reading this kind of blogs, as in heath is not dead blogs...why do you bother searching or looking for this kind of stuff if you think it would be disrespectfull for him or his family and so on... this kind of people wouldn't have a problem accepting his death therefore wouldn't be lookng and reading this blogs...they just wouldn't bother...or is there some kind of hope?
Samar: both the endless hopefull and the quick to dismiss any argument types are but two sides of the same coin...like you said, the simple fact that this person is HERE bothering to read this, means deep down he or she is still hoping, no matter how quick he or she is to put others down when they speak of hope or how acid his or her comments may be. And yes, the blog is dormant, because everything has already been said...what else is there? But the people who made this blog with their comments are still out there and the flicker of hope is still within them.
Bah, guys. I'm so sad. I'm one of those people who still hope that he is alive but I'm crying anyway because, I no longer have that strong optimism I had when I started posting here about six months ago. Nothing's happened and I miss the guy.
I might be the last one on earth, but I finally saw The Dark Knight last night after buying the video on the first day of sale. What I kept seeing throughout the movie went like this: "...22...fake death...22...fake death...22..." The number "22" kept appearing over and over, and there was more than one death which we were told was true, but which turned out to be fake and it was a surprise to find out the person was really still alive. It felt like a message was being telegraphed throughout the movie. And then what happens on the very first 22 date of the year that TDK is released, January 22? A death which we were told is true, but which does not seem to be true to some of us.
Thats wut someone said on the blog come people have some faith why did this board die we just gotta find out FEB 22
First of all, why would someone make a point to come onto a board like this and crush someone's hopes of a person they care about still being alive? Who is it hurting? Tell me that. Secondly, I too, am one of the so-called LedgerHeads that believes there's a chance he MAY still be alive. I'm not saying he is, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm just saying it's possible. I could post a list of what makes me sort of want to believe it on here, but it's been posted already too many times to read.
I will say this much. Someone tell me why they went to all the trouble to show him on a gurney in a body bag. Why they had to make it known to the world that he was cremated. Why all the descrepancies in the autopsy and the toxicology report? Why was Mary Kate called first? Why is only a limited amount of money turning up in his bank accounts and assets? Why was is family dancing and laughing at his *memorial* service? My mama died when I was 18, and she was cremated and we sure as F*CK weren't dancing or smiling at ALL. I could go on and on.
The thing that really got my attention on this matter, was watching the E! True Hollywood Story about Heath the other day...all the comments and quotes from him about being so miserable about the spotlight and the media and photographers. The way he acted when he was on the red carpet. Just everything about him screamed "LEAVE ME ALONE, LET ME BE!"
For those of you that think he wouldn't do that to his daughter, why wouldn't he? He loved her, and that would be reason ENOUGH to take is own death to keep her from having to live that completely public lifestyle that would have emcompassed him and his entire family after The Dark Knight came out. Yes it would suck and no doubt break his heart to leave her, but he would think she would be better off growing up "normal." And who's to say that if he DID do this thing, a few years from now, he wouldn't start communicating with her, once all the hype has died down? She would probably understand. I would.
Those of you saying it CAN'T be done, get real. If you have enough fame and enough money, then you can make just about anybody disappear, including YOURSELF. Do any of you not know about the mafia? I mean come ON! And where did all that money go that Michelle's dad was hunting for eh? Explain that one. If he's really dead, surely he didn't take it WITH HIM!
All I'm saying is that given all of these inconsistancies and possibilities and loopholes in his death, I say it's possible. For those of you that don't agree or think we're foolish for believing, then go post on a HEATH LEDGER IS DEAD forum, and STOP bothering this one. There is not a thing in this world wrong with harboring hope, whether it is false hope or real hope.
And just for the record, we are NOT all 16 year old girls. Yes I'd love for him to be alive for selfish reasons, but at the same time, if he comes back into the public eye ten years from now, I will be overjoyed, not pissed. I feel that we were robbed, and if there's a chance that he's still alive, then GET OVER IT! Like I said, WHO IS IT HURTING???? NOT A DAMN PERSON! Stop being a f'n killjoy already!
It's Christmas, let us have happy thoughts, dammit!
AND to all of you that insist that faking your own death is a felony or whatever, so what? If he never "comes back" or never gets caught, he can't be convicted can he? No he cannot. So stop bitching, leave everyone on here alone that is keen to keep hope alive. I don't however believe that he will reappear at the oscars, or that he will reappear anywhere. Period. That would defeat the entire purpose if he DID fake his death. Because if he went to all that trouble, I guarantee it was not for publicity, as that was what he tried to AVOID most of the time. Get a clue people, come on!
I will also say this, stop looking for clues. I don't think there will be any. Kind of like the ending to The Dark Knight, this story's ending is open to interpretation and will probably forever remain a conspiracy theory. If this was done, this is not something that will be taken lightly or revealed anytime in the immediate foreseeable future.
Did Heath Ledger really die on January 22nd, 2008, or does he live still? The world may never know. Though I do find it INCREDIBLY odd that the Oscar noms are set to come out one year to the day of his death...just sayin...
In The Dark Knight, at the end of the 6 minute prologue the school bus the Joker drives out of the bank reads “DISTRICT 22” on the side.
When Batman gets to Hong Kong and shoots stick-on time bombs onto the windows of a tall office building, the timer is shown to count down and the last time we see is 2:22, two minutes, twenty-two seconds. That is at 34:46 into the movie if you want to look for it.
And then there is Harvey Dent’s lucky coin, which we see over and over again, with the date 1922 on it.
And here's a little bonus for you. The one and only movie starring Heath that was in theaters at the time that the news said he was found dead in his apartment is the one that is titled, “I’m Not There.” Did you catch that? The News: "Look! Heath's dead in his apartment!" Heath: "I'm not there." Odd, to say the least. During the promotion for I'm Not There, Heath said the following, in which he mentions the number 22 and says he feels good about dying, right in the same sentence:
***“You learn more about yourself through your child, I guess. And I think you also look at death differently. Like, I, um, it’s like a catch-22, like I feel good about dying now because I feel like I’m alive in her, you know, but at the same hand you don’t want to die because you want to be around for the rest of her life. It’s kind of like an interesting kind of little setup.”***
"Well, I have been reading most of the postings and I agree that perhaps it is a difficult story to put together in that it doesn't make sense.. I have gathered information from some research I did on the topic of Heath's supposed death and I have to say it is a thing of beauty in a sense that it is so obvious that something is at a miss that you have to question the intention... Well all I can say is Heath wherever you are take good care of yourself and live a good life... and keep on writing us... Look after yourself :)
And for those of you that think that perhaps celebs and important people like such don't waist time looking at blogs well let me tell you I know lots of celebs and improtant dudes and dudettes that I talk too online and they are facinated by what people talk about when it comes to them and their image but mostly when it is positive like this blog I think we are on to something here maybe but most defenitely... Cheers all !!"
It's on the thread that was there for an entire month before the blogger updated. Am I the only one who thinks it's a little fishy??
This blog was originally started with the idea that Heath's death was a publicity stunt. That comment has since been removed from the top of the blog.
There's a new interview online with Terry Gilliam, the director and co-writer of Heath's last movie, in which he says this was his reaction when he first heard the news:
"I went in the office and it was there on the BBC website that Heath had been found dead. My first reaction was that it was Warner Brothers, it was a publicity stunt."
Yes, Highlander he does say that, but then he goes on to say " My first reaction was that it was Warner Brothers, it was a publicity stunt. Of course it wasn’t. We were so close to Heath, he was like family, it was terrible so we just lay on the ground for the rest of the day and that was it. I still can’t believe it and there are days where I’m not quite sure he is dead because I work with him every day in the editing room.”
Heath's Death- "The actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday afternoon in an apartment in Manhattan, according to the New York City police. Some signs pointed to an accidental overdose or a suicide, although no note was found, police sources said. Mr. Ledger was 28."
Nick Drake's Death- "On 25 November 1974, Nick Drake, a 26 year old English guitarist, singer and songwriter died at his parents Tanworth-in-Arden home from an overdose of the anti-depressant drug Tryptizol. The coroner at the time declared the death a suicide, yet family and friends suggested it was an accidental overdose, following upon a long period of depression. According to official accounts, there was no suicide note discovered and friends said that Nick was in a relatively good frame of mind at the time."
what Heath thought of Nick- "I was obsessed with his story and his music and I pursued it for a while and still have hopes to kind of tell his story one day," a soft-spoken and fidgety Ledger told the assembled media, though he also said that any such aspirations had "faded away."
and then he directed this- (hard to watch) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPKnGo_WOp4
WOW
a) this is a huge coincedence, a REALLY REALLY huge coincedence. b) We dont want to believe, but this could point to a copycat type of suicide. c) this could just add one more reason to think that this is all a little too, theatrial, to be real. We would love to believe this...
he's just an actor like a multitude of actor out there, some get to be in films, some on stage. Many give amazing performances, other not so much. He died as a result of over-medicating. Enough said, let the man rest in peace and enjoy his work for what it was, entertainment.
Yes, that video is incredibly sad but also beautiful. The story on the video is that it was shown at a couple of small film festival type occasions, but the full video has never been on the internet and is not available anywhere. The one on YouTube is supposed to be only just part of Heath's video. And if it isn't real clear what happens at the end of the video, that's supposed to be Heath committing suicide by drowning, although I don't know that's a fact without getting to see the full video, and even then sometimes there is interpretation to consider, as to what things actually are intended to mean.
The Nick Drake Song "Black Eyed Dog" is about depression. It's a quote from Winston Churchill, who suffered from depression, which he called a "black dog," the beast that tormented him.
You can watch a short video clip of Heath saying what is quoted in the previous post here: http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=204868
Heath was co-owner of a bar in Brooklyn that opened this year. All the early news articles said the bar was to be named BrightSide, because it was on the bright side of the street. But shortly before it opened the news articles said the name was Five Leaves, which is taken from the Nick Drake album Five Leaves Left. Heath's family changed the name after he died, which seems really odd, but only because we don't know what really goes on in private.
Not that there's anything much on the webpage, but here is the bar's website: http://www.fiveleavesny.com
Here's a news article about the bar from last September: http://www.theage.com.au/national/somewhere-to-go-on-a-dark-knight-ledgers-ny-bar-20080914-4gay.html?page=-1
The video makes me think about life itself, what is all about. It makes me re-evaluate everything and everyone around me and see if they are worth the trouble. Why do we do the things we do, live the way we live? What do I really want? The moment we start being honest with ourselves we may find that we do a great deal of things to make other people happy but that we hurt ourselves in the process. That's when you know you need to do something, turn it around, go the way you are supposed to go, not the way everybody else wants you to go. Then you make choices and realize not everybody is going to be happy with them, but you know what? I don't want to reach the end of the road and feel like I didn't live. I want to get to the end feeling I did everything I ever wanted to do, that's what I want...:D
I enjoy this. I enjoy this hype about Heath being alive. Because I know in my heart that he is. I want to share a bit of information with you all to help you keep hope alive...true, many of you aren't into psychics and the stars and whatnot, but I do firmly believe in most of it and took this to heart.
I'm from Brooklyn, now living in Los Angeles. I went back in November to visit family. While out in SoHo for the day I decided to stop to see ol' 421 Broome Street. I got to the door and started shaking. I didn't know what to do for a minute, so I cleared my mind and closed my eyes. The first thing that popped in my head was "ring the bell." I knew I couldn't possibly do that, taking the chance for getting in trouble for such a thing (not to mention the buzzer on the front door does have a camera on it). I tried to shake off the feeling but it wouldn't leave me alone. I started to walk down the street a little bit, and dropped my cigarette. When I stood back up, I turned to my right and was looking straight into the eyes of a psychic in her shop. She was ushering me to come in, in some sense of urgency. So, obviously, I did.
I said nothing to her but that I had a strange feeling that something wasn't true (that Heath wasn't dead, but I didn't tell her that. Never give a psychic information you want to know more about). She read my cards and finally looked up at me and said "His father was just here a week ago." Kim Ledger was in SoHo in November. Namely, Broome Street. Not even a month later, Heath's apartment was taken back off the market.
He loved Matilda too much to leave her..he has said time and time again, he would do anything for his little girl. If he is still alive, everybody would assume he's hiding out somewhere remote and distant.....right? Or is he still in his old apartment? Maybe his stuff still is.....
This is just how I feel. So far, I've agreed 100% with everyone on here and I urge everyone to keep hope alive.
I have just seriously figured out some crazy things regarding these thoughts.... I two have had a very....very strong feeling about this! Take January 22, 2008 .... find 1 as A 22 as V 20 as T and 08 as H, take his age 28, 2 as B and again 8 as H. Play with the letters taking into consideration that the next movie is going to be based around CAT Woman which will be played by "Rachel" shivers I know. His daughter is 3 = C. In the picture of his bodyguards wheeling out his body, there is a cop car with the numbers 14 / 21 which give you N and U... this is a bit of a stretch but if you add 1 + 2 and 2 is 5 which gives you a E... now take these letters and spell it out The Bat Can't Hunt Heath!..... if you play with them more there are a lot of other coiencidences. I may sound like a freak but I'm being serious!
the joker in full costume was spotted in a skate park skate boarding amd people got pictures of it! in google images type in 'joker skateboarding' one of the websites it links to it has a picture of him without the joker stuff on!
plus people thought he was a big fan but then paperazzi came in saw it was him and he made a hasty retreat! and they heard him say why so serious and they could tell completly it was him! the media never picked it up but a few websites did....
i hope its true he was spotted in california!
i hope its all true hes my favourite actor and i couldnt quite believe he was dead it just felt wrong. i dunno why though if heath is dead though R.I.P!
^^^^^plus my name is hannah^^^^^ for the list also i really only have just found this website and i've known for a while about the skateboarding trick
if it was him hopefully he will accept his oscar he will live on and make more movies direct like he wanted to and be a loving father and watch his daughter grow into a wonderful woman. i just hope if he is alive he wont stay in the shadows everyone misses him and he only really just became huge because of the dark knight (and partially his death) plus if he was alive wouldnt the paperazzi just find him and take pictures but i have to say his style changes alot
Look, I understand why you all want Heath Ledger to be alive. He was a fantastic actor after all. And Hell, he went out with a bang as the Joker. But if he was really willing to give up his career, he would not need to fake his own death for some peace and quiet. Once you're out of the limelight for a while, people just stop caring. Another thing. If he has enough money to pull off a grand scheme like faking his own death, then he definitely wouldn't need any more and he would have enough to escape the paparazzi on a deserted Island somewhere like Johnny Depp. Get a life and stop worrying about the one Heath lost.
I love Heath Ledger! It feels like he is alive but i no he is not. Its really hard to face him being dead cos i was such a big fan so when people say "omg just get over it" well its not that easy. I suppose he could of pulled it off and then he could come back when he wins best actor at the Oscars and he could have all of his family in on this aswell, he might just need some time away from the spotlight to spend time with his little girl and he might even need a year away to get of the drugs, The movie was made before he died and he was in the middle of starting another one but i suppose that it is a bit wierd as the 'Joker' did say stuff like "Its all part of the plan" and he came in a body-suit thing. I doubt that he is alive because why would he put all of his fans through this?! I would still be a MASSIVE fan of him still but its all a bit fake anyway isn't it. It isn't illegal to fake your own death only if it was a money scam, He would get more attention if he was alive and came back, but i'm guessing he's not. I hope he is alive coz i love him so much, but dont get your hopes up becuase it probaly isn't true, if it isn't true lets ALL let him rest in peace!
I kind of agree with the previous post. I still keep hoping that he is alive and well and happy. I know that he hated being in media spotlight but he wouldn't hurt his fans. But there are people out there who do on some level believe that he has faked his death. Will he come back from the Oscars? I don't know! No one does. No one can predict what's going to happen. I would never tell anyone to get a life for believing Heath faked his death. Who am I to judge. If people want to believe it then who is it hurting? This is a blog that anyone can come and comment. There are a lot of stuff that went on that night that we will not know about. I do wonder what Mary Kates part in all of this. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered. If he's gone rest in peace man! You were a great actor. If he's out there somewhere then I hope he's happy. If he does come back and it was a fake I for one won't judge him or be angry. It's New Years day here so Happy New Year!!
I posted one on tge 31.12.08 - Evie.H! Anyway i watched The Dark Knight again and thinking about it is a bit wierd how Gorden Faked death then comes back when its his time to be big becuase he wants to pretect his family well maybe Heath is faking his death but will come back when its his time of glory -The Oscars 09! Maybe he needed time away to spend time with his family or to pretect them - i mean he just play 'The Joker' people after that might not like him - doubt it but maybe! I doubt that he is alive but let all hope and pray that he is! We dont no at the moment so let him RIP! He was a great actor and person, Hope i meet him in Heaven!
and maybe we just cant accept that hes gone i know i doesnt feel right i thnk that was because it was so sudden and it was greatly exaggerated but hopefully (very slim chance) he is alive reading every word we post or maybe hes in heaven seeing how much people miss him and feeling upset with all the wonderful things behind but i hope and pray he'll turn up at the oscars surprise everyone and accept his oscar.
Heath is still alive!!!!!! We'll find out in time, there's just so many speculations, and I don't believe for one second that was Heath in that body bag. The person looked to small and thin.
in Heath's wikipedia it used to say he had a tattoo on his wrist that said KAOS,the letters of his mother and sisters names,and it was taken off.strange.
I was the one who posted the link above and such. Too bad I came a little bit too late for this board, it seems so interesting. I wish I could have found it earlier - for I find this really interesting. While I know that there's a huge, large, 99.99% chanse that he's positivly dead, I feel in my spirit that he's still out there somewhere. Yet the sad part is that if he is still out there, he probably still won't come back. But oh well. If he doesn't come back between January 22 - February 22, then it's basically over. I really hope he comes back :[
I sure hope so. I'm just worried that if he really is dead that we'll be disappointed and stuff. Yet if he faked his death and never comes out, then we'll never know. Maybe he'll come out like, 50 years from now. Or maybe he'll come out and had surgery and stuff, yet when he's a 'normal person' and goes to the 'normal doctor', and gets blood work done, they'll figure out he's the famous Heath Ledger.
Oh well. XD I was just rambling on about things that could happen.
I SO HOPE HE FAKED HIS DEATH. <3
He must come out January 22, 2009 ... or February 22, 2009 ... if he doesn't by then, and he doesn't show up in the third batman movie, then it's just over.
Happy new year folks. I was out of town for a while, for whoever was looking for me.
Deak, man good to see you here still!.
Whoever posted the comment about the KAOS tattoo, do you have a link that says he took it off? That would be interesting, since it was very noticeable.
Well. The oscars at 22nd of February should bring light into all of this. Will he reappear? It would be a good chance. But it could have been the third Batman Movie.
I meant that on his wikipedia it used to say he had that tattoo but wikipedia took it off. He didn't have it removed,that website just removed that information about him.
people who are saything that if he was 'hiding away and sneaking to see matilda but that wouldn't work because she's 3 and she would tell' well I dunno about you but i havn't seen matilda interviewed latley. people arn't going to go up to a three year old and question her, come on.
Yeah I was rummaging through photobucket and found it and was like, what's this? Is it a promo for the oscars, or the dark knight? it doesn't look fan made.
Wow, Ry. That's really interesting that they'd make a poster advertising for the Oscars 'Dark Knight' related. Yes, the Dark Knight is the major thing with the Oscars right now, but what if it's something more...for instance, the so called dead Joker showing up to accept his award?
it'd be quite the show. seeing everyones reactions. sadly enough i've spent about the last hour reading through everyone's posts. if he showed up at the oscars, at first i'd be mad for about 10.8 seconds and then i would burst into tears of joy. even if he was arrested or whatever for whatever counts, just the relief of knowing that he's on the same planet as i am would would relieve me of the past 11 months of stress..
Wow thanks for the picture Ry. Awesome.. If Heath Ledger won't get the Oscar for this performance..then what should anyone get an Oscar for? How much better can acting f*cking get?
Hm I acutally didn't know that he spent two weeks with his family in Perth right before he died. I don't get it. Why would he take these pills against depression then..you should be happy when you saw your family after a while again :) Or he could have talked about it with his family. I guess we will never know what happened.
and a prominent Perth car dealer believed to have met Ledger just once.
But 17 of Heath's aunts, uncles and cousins, including his godparents, were absent.
Alright well there was a "prominent car dealer" at the funeral? Wasn't a van stolen from Heath?? And 17 of Heath's relatives weren't there..Because they're not in on it or really because of the row over money? ...
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I know the title is misleading! I clicked on it because I was searching up things like "Heath Ledger alive". And to tessellated lol, it was "Posted on January 28, 2008 10:15am · Filed under: Celebrity Gossips & News" It says right there, you are looking at TODAYS date, they're telling you today is Monday the 22nd of September. Yesterday it said the 21st because it was the 21st. I didn't mean for any of you to get mad. I just wanted to share it with all of you because I thought that it was interesting and I couldn't believe it! And also, I know! In that situation, I would call 911 RIGHT away! I don't know what that woman was thinking! It's common sense to call 911 if a man is laying face down and not breathing!
-Kel
Also, here is a better explanation of what happened with the masseuse http://news.lalate.com/2008/01/25/diana-lee-wolozin-pictures-heath-ledgers-masseuse-and-the-911-call/
-Kel
Good afternoon boys and girls! Today I am reproducing here a comment made by Highlander on the other blog. I find this comment in particular very interesting, mainly because I agree with every one of his statements 100%. Here it is:
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"Why did the medical examiner make a statement naming specific drugs but make a point to refuse to state the amounts that they found?
Why did they also make a point to refuse to state the time of death?
They tell us a story when they name the drugs and state their conclusion about the combination, but it's only a partial story, which makes it a suspicious story. It sounds like a cover-up, but covering up what exactly?
Why was it reported world-wide early on that "there were not enough drugs of any kind" found in the first autopsy to have killed him and therefore it had to have been "natural causes" like unexpected heart failure due to some condition that was never noticed before. That was the story at one point. Then we waited for the toxicology report, which gave them weeks to come up with the story that he had lots of different drugs in him. I just don't buy it. It's a suspicious, made-up sounding, bogus-sounding story.
Why did the investigation into the prescribing doctors lead to no reported conclusion? Was it Mary-Kate who caused the investigation to end? Sure seems like it. It ended when she stared them down and scared them off.
Ordinarily, as time goes by and more information is released and more officials make statements, you'd think the story would become more clear and easier to understand, but not with Heath. Every time something new happens it makes the whole thing less clear and more confusing, and more suspicious.
And if that really was Heath they took out of that apartment, and if they really did find all those drugs in him, who says he took them of his own free will anyway? We weren't there. We don't know what happened. I find it very difficult to believe that "he would be so stupid" as to take all those drugs at the same time, which is what most people think. Unless somebody can tell me a believable story that can convince me Heath would have done that, then I'm not believing it. He could also have been murdered just as easily as any other possibility.
It's unclear to me whether that really was or wasn't Heath that they took out of that apartment. It's unclear to me whether they really did or didn't find those drugs. It's unclear to me if he's dead or alive. What is clear to me is that everything about the story is suspicious. My first words when I heard the news on January 22nd were, "That's impossible," and that's still what I think, eight months later."
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Thank you Highlander, very interesting stuff.
It's all true. If you think of it, if he was to fake his death, he wouldn't want people to think he was an addict. So he made them come up with a story that made it seem like an accident that couldn't be avoided. Think of it, if you were Heath, would you rather people remember you as a guy who was ODing on a bunch of illegal drugs or a guy that was a great man that accidently ODed becuase he was stressed out. I would choose the more pleasant one. It fits so well with the rest of the suspicions.
In the other blog, a question was posed that I think merits discussion: "Doesn't it strike you odd that there aren't any real Oscar contenders yet except for Dark Knight? That certain films are being delayed for released until after the Oscar period?"....Damn good question if you ask me, but what do I know? :D
I also found this website interesting. It discusses the possible 2009 Oscar Nominations, including Heath for Best Supporting Actor. Does anybody know if the nomination announcements are still set for Jan 22 and the ceremony for Feb 22 or will the ceremony be pushed to March as proposed by ABC?
And speaking of the Oscars, LostHighlander nailed it again with a comment posted on the other blog back on 08-30. Here it is:
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The stealth campaign to discredit Heath is starting up again. I used to catch onto this stuff only after it was in full swing, but this time I see the beginning of a new push. Here it is, late in August. The movie award season will start soon, and so now this begins again.
I might not have the order of events right, but I have it about right. The first anti-Heath campaign was the one where the media preached to the public that we were not allowed to even "care," much less to be sad that Heath died. They gave a list of reasons why they would not allow us to be sad. They actually told the public to "stop caring." And then they said the public was probably just faking it anyway, they weren’t really sad, they just wanted attention, and they brought out mental health professionals to back them up.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Oscars2008/story?id=4208905&page=1
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4223667&page=1
The second anti-Heath campaign was the drug addict one. They desperately tried to convince the public that Heath was a no-good, irresponsible junkie that we should all hate and not love.
And then the third anti-Heath campaign was the one about his estate, where they insisted that he had hardly any money at all (as if) and had neglected to update his will and left nothing to his daughter. They pushed this hard, trying to make everyone hate him for being a no-good, irresponsible father. They somehow didn’t report what came out later, that Heath had “a complicated web of high-powered Hollywood lawyers, agents, and accountants” and was very well off financially. All those highly-paid professionals don't come cheap and they actually DO something for their pay, they don't "forget" or "neglect" to update their client's will, they just don't publicize it...it's kept quiet and out of the media's attention.
So now it starts all over again. Now comes the campaign to try to prevent Heath from getting any awards for his work in The Dark Knight. Ignoring all Heath’s peers who were so impressed with him, and the critics, and the fans, now comes the campaign to say that he wasn’t a good actor at all, and to say that any award he would get would only be out of pity that he died, which of course they are implying would be dishonest and so that leaves absolutely no reason for Heath to win any awards. That’s the first article quoted below. The second article desperately tries to get the public to STOP going to see The Dark Knight.
I say this is a stealth campaign because it makes no sense that these media people would do this on their own because what they’re saying makes no rational sense. It comes across as a coordinated effort behind the scenes, a “conspiracy” in other words…but why? Who benefits from this? I haven’t figured that out yet.
So, in the words of the Joker, “Here we go…”
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The Yorkshire Post
Will emotion rather than good acting sway Oscars?
29 August 2008
And the big question: will Heath Ledger join the late, great Peter Finch in that sad, exclusive club by winning a posthumous Oscar for playing the Joker in The Dark Knight? It might happen, but it will be Hollywood sentiment that clinches it rather than anything to do with genuinely great acting.
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/film/Will-emotion-rather-than-good.4440351.jp
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Movies Online
Is Heath Ledger the Reason for The Dark Knight's Success?
Posted By: Luke
So with The Dark Knight still raking in the cash Warner Bros. is laughing all the way to the bank. But the ultimate question is whether or not they would be if Heath Ledger had not died.. Would the early reports of Heaths performance had been so glowing? We will never know. But I will end this by saying before you pull out your wallet to support The Dark Knight again.. Think twice.
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15511.html
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Wao! All I can say is...right on!! :D
I have no idea.
But I read that experts say The Dark Knight will at least win 1 award. I guess you can trust them. I believe it will get plenty of others. Do you know that incredibly bad movie Norbit? With Eddy Murphy? It was nominated for Best Make Up. I thought that was a joke. Compared to that, TDK will definitley win it.
http://www.oscarfrenzy.com/commentary/2009-oscar-predictions-previewing-the-best-films-of-2008/
I am not happy today. Apparently some guy has popped up suggesting a Joker spin off with the character being played by some other actor...has the world gone mad?!!
http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2008/09/brett-ratner-continues-reign-of.html
i hope not):
Good Lord, somebody put out that idiot before he ACTUALLY does give Warner Bros an idea =S
( oh, and J? - if even you can tell it's just plain crazy, I guess it is... =) Haha..)
Seriously though - I'd be happy if nobody took on that part ever again, thank-you! Can't imagine the pain of having to go through some messed up poor replica of that masterpiece that is HEATH'S performance....
It takes one to know one!! :D
^ HAHA ! I betcha ! LOL :D
Muffin, darling I did not know you had such talent for music...I just heard the killer mix you made for me, how sweet!! Kids, if you want to know what I am talking about check out Muffin's mix here:
http://ill-muffin.livejournal.com/560.html
Very nice selection, thanks!! :D
Ah! Two of the songs are in format M4A. You can convert them to MP3's here:
http://media-convert.com/convert/
haha I'm glad you think its so awesome, I worked pretty hard on that :D
Guys why has this blog died down so much?? =(
I thought we were here to speculate and try and keep our hopes up that Heath is still alive but it's like nobody cares about that anymore... =S
I don't know... maybe its because we don't have a lot of new evidence to talk about anymore. I think we're all just waiting for something to happen so we can talk about it.
In the mean time, why not have some fun? I found a little screen play about the subject. Now, before you read it just bear in mind that the aim of the play is to expose how sick and twisted our media has become. Personally, I found the ending a bit farfetched, but the rest of it is pretty enjoyable. With that in mind, here is the link:
http://pc.celtx.com/project/bCmLapJD1EzS/view/http://celtx.com/res/1kEqvojZWTHA
Oh! I almost forgot: looks like Five Leaves (Heath's Restaurant) is doing so good, they are having to fix up the kitchen to keep up...nice!
http://eater.com/archives/2008/09/five_leaves_1.php
Latest news: Matilda will inherit her dad's assets!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080928/en_afp/entertainmentaustraliausfilmpeopleledger
the screenplay was good except for the ending.. tupac? ahaha
we had lunch at 5 leaves today - quite tasty - and i plan to go back.
I wonder if the investigation being conducted by the insurance company into Heath's death will turn up something...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/09/reliastar-life.html
I could see the investigation stopping all of a sudden
that would be suspicious(:
I hear the insurance company wants to take depositions from all the people involved...I wonder, will Mary Kate finally say something about this matter or will she manage to dodge the bullet once more? :D
I have a question: Is it usual that people (or especially celebrities) cremate their deceased relatives? Or is it more common to bury them?
Cause if it's faked cremating would make a whole lot of sense so no crazy fan would get the idea of digging the corpse :D and if there was no corpse it would be pretty scandalous.
[I know this seems farfetched]
And oh this investigation thing: This is what I meant with the post that we're not making stuff up. Things happen for itself..
Believers:
Shelby A
Tamta
Spec
dot
Deak
MATT
IBN
Dice
Liz
Hunter
loot
and what happened to all those 'believer' :)
you're not posting anymore what's wrong
"...I wonder, will Mary Kate finally say something about this matter or will she manage to dodge the bullet once more? :D"
God i hope she says something. Ive been waiting for that dumb ho to say something about this forever. There's no way she couldn't have had something to do with it.
Well, well, looks like another Ledger is trying to come into the limelight... :D
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24433370-5012990,00.html
You know what REALLY bugs me about this? You will think I am insane but I will say it anyway...anybody here plays chess? I do, been in a few tournaments too. Chess is a strategy game. If you want to win, you need to be patient, bold, calculating and most of all be willing to sacrifice. Heath played chess. His father, who I consider a very intelligent man, was never able to beat him. You are going to tell me that a mind that was able to play and win a chess game, is going to OD on prescription drugs? Somehow, I find the idea very insulting to my own intelligence. That was not an accident. In my mind there are only two possibilities and I know Believer will agree with me on this one: either it was planned by Heath (in which case, my hat goes off to you dude, you are the man!) or it was planned by somebody else (meaning, he was murdered). I know, option number two sounds gruesome, but let's not forget how easy it is to make an OD murder seem like an accident... Now who would want to do something like that and why? I don't know, but it does not eliminate the possibility since there is so much stuff about his private life that we don't know. If he did plan it and he is out there somewhere, I seriously think he won't come back. IF he really did this, he's retired for good. Some people say he wouldn't do that to his daughter, but how do you know if he does not see his family in secret? Michelle is very private, we don't know what she does 24/7...it is a possibility. Call me crazy, but that's what I think.
Im not gonna call you crazy because what you're saying is definiatly believeable. Hell, for all we know it might be right! But inside I hope you're wrong, because i really want him to still be alive but come back. And the murdered idea... well honestly I never even thought about that before! It could be true too, but why do you think anyone would want to kill him?
Muffin, I don't know who would do such a thing or why but the fact is that he is not the first hollywood figure to die young in suspicious circumstances. For example:
- James Dean, 24, died on September 30, 1955, after a car crash on a highway near Paso Robles, California.
- Sharon Tate, 26, was murdered on August 9, 1969, by followers of Charles Manson in Los Angeles.
- Freddie Prinze, 22, died on January 29, 1977, after shooting himself in Los Angeles.
- Jon-Erik Hexum, 26, died on October 18, 1984, after accidentally shooting himself with a prop gun in Los Angeles.
- Rebecca Schaeffer, 21, was murdered on July 18, 1989, by stalker Robert John Bardo in Los Angeles.
- Brandon Lee, 28, died on March 31, 1993, after accidentally being shot on the set of The Crow in Wilmington, North Carolina.
- River Phoenix, 23, died on October 31, 1993, from a drug overdose outside a nightclub in Los Angeles.
- David Strickland, 29, died on March 22, 1999, after hanging himself in a hotel room in Las Vegas.
- Jonathan Brandis, 27, died on November 12, 2003, from injuries he suffered after hanging himself in Los Angeles.
- Brad Renfro, 25, died on January 15, 2008, the day after reportedly spending an evening drinking with friends.
In all these cases, speculation has sprung about the inconsistencies in each scenario. Some people argue that people create conspiracy theories because of their refusal to let go of a person they felt connected to thru their artistic work. However, the inconsistencies are still there, demanding an answer. If you google the subject you will find enourmous amounts of theories about Heath's death. But over time, people forget and go about their business...
I don't think we've found one indisputable thing in all of Heath's death. That's the difference.
Quote:
"In my mind there are only two possibilities and I know Believer will agree with me on this one: either it was planned by Heath (in which case, my hat goes off to you dude, you are the man!) or it was planned by somebody else (meaning, he was murdered)."
Joker, you know me too well (haha). Yes, I DO agree with you - heath certainly didn't strike me as the kind of person who'd OD on medicines. I mean excuse me, but that just sounds too dumb to me. Yes, I too have been thinking about the possibility of him being murdered, if that's the case, athough i firstly still firmly believe it's all just an act.
I mean, it just sounds too stupid for it to have been an accident: are they actually expecing us to believe that heath didn't have ANY doctors following him with his medicines, and telling him "whoa,no man, don't mix that!" ? come on, people! he was a celebrity for God's sake! You'd think he had SOMEBODY worrying about his health, expecially if, as reports have said, he was taking the medicines from some time..... Tzk.
I'm just worried he'll never show up again =(. I was watching a clip of Brothers Grimm the other day, and I am telling you, I miss him and I cannot believe he's gone. He can't have.
Oh, and Deak? You're absolutely right. If only they'd prove us definitely he was gone, I'd let it go. Period. But that's not happening! And until it does...I'm gonna keep on believing ;)
I don't think Heath is hiding away forever. That would mean he would have to stay hidden for the rest of his life. He can never go around in public because someone will recognize him and he'll be even more famous. If he's alive, I believe he'll come back.
^ Deak, you've got a point, but what if he's managed to completely change his looks physically, so he's much less recognizable per se? also remember that if people continue believing he's just dead, he's probably not going to be pointed to... i mean we're speculating here and it's one thing, but can you really imagine a "normal" person who doesn't know about all this possibly seeing him and thinking, "hey, wait, isn't that the guy that passed away last january?" he'd be pretty safe actually. (except if he came across one of us, of course! :D)
Here, here. I believe that if he is alive, he is gone out of the limelight for good and he has changed his looks to keep his identity safe. He is, after all, an actor...if he changes his phisique and talks and acts differently, who will recognize him? It's not that hard to do, you know.
http://www.celebritybabies.info/wp-content/uploads/heath_ledger_michelle_williams01-23-07.jpg
http://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/heath-ledger-last-photo.jpg
http://itsakirby.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/gq_heathledger.jpg
http://onrobertsonblvd.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/23/89641197heath_ledger.jpg
The man is a chameleon...
Ordinary people can pull it off, why can't he? I mean, he said it himself:
Quote 1:
Heath: "I only do this because I'm having fun. The day I stop having fun, I'll just walk away. … There's so much I want to discover." -- Vanity Fair (August, 2000)
Quote 2:
Mr. Ledger, however, also called it [playing the Joker in The Dark Knight] “the most fun I’ve ever had, or probably ever will have, playing a character.” – The New York Times (March, 2008)
And then his last radio interview where he said:
"Then after that, I'll drop to the ground dead [laughs] and hibernate for a year."
...if those are not hints, I don't know what they are...coincidences? So many of them?
holy shit he looks like bono on the last one xDD
Hey, question: did anybody actually SEE this on tv?
"When Heaths body was removed from the apartment it bounced over the curb on the cart bodies don’t bounce like that when there strapped down."
That was posted on the other blog. I actually did not see the footage they are talking about, if anybody has a link, I would appreciate it.
lynne posted it on the other blog.
err yeah the owner of this blog changed the post oO
I think right now I can truly say that I don't buy that Heath is death.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=4LcfMuc-1us
Well how hard they push his body against the car. And his whole body bounces although he is strapped.
Guys, I found something that seems extremely odd to me, maybe somebody can explain it. Look at the video on the link below. It's the last footage available from Heath on the set of The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus in London. Look at it and see if you can figure out what is going on, because I honestly can't.
http://daveandthomas.net/blog/2008/01/25/last-footage-of-heath-ledger/
I know this is random lol! but as 10 Things I Hate About You is going to be 10 years old next year!!! there is talk that they are going to bring it to the small screen. The story is going to be about Kat & Bianca starting High School. I dont know if it will be any good tho! here's the link.
http://www.cinematical.com/2008/10/10/news-bites-
10-things-heads-to-tv-haters-and-more/
Also Billy Bob Thornton said in a recent interview that Heath hated the Hollywood thing. That he went out of his way to shun Hollywood. He just wanted to be left alone to do his thing like any normal guy but he couldn't do that anymore when he got famous. It used to freak him out having people coming up taking photos etc. He preferred it when no one recognised him. I have a feeling that there is something funny going on here. The body thing is weird, also the fact that guards were asked to watch his body in the funeral home. Dont think they did that for anyone else! There's just too many things that dont add up.
Well it looks like they are running after Heath, trying to stop him and shoot at him. Like he's an criminal. A woman screaming 'STOP'.
Yeah yesterday in Germany there was a little scandal at an award show. Just a man wasn't accepting the award for his life's work. But after that on a news magazine they literally said: " The scandal turnt this tv event into good television. This is what people wanna see. " Sure this is small in comparison with Heath but I'm pretty sure the media would react the same way if there was a 'SCANDAL' at the oscars. Just more..shocked. =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RSMjAwB54&feature=related
erm.whoopi goldberg?
Fanta, I was reading the comments below that link you posted and I found it interesting that somebody mentioned that Heath sent a text message to MK the day he died. Does anybody have a link about this?
This forum has become disappointning.
I have been reading this blog for about a month now but I have never commented because I am a mother of 5 and I just feel funny having the same thoughts as young people.
People have been saying that if he did fake his death that he might have changed his look, voice, face.....we would still never see him again.
I don't think he will show up at an awards show. Or an other Batman. If he did fake his death I hope he is OK.
aww we really need something new to come up with thiss
There doesn't seem to be anything going on here. You're right Deak. No one seems to be coming on here anymore and posting...
where are you guys?
Hunter
I just saw 10 things i hate about you and Heath Ledger was Amazing i miss this man every muchh and im praying he shows up for oscars
^^^^^
eh I dont think he is going to show up for the Oscars. Im not a hater its just i dont want this person above me to get their hopes up high. I think if he did fake his death he wouldn't turn up at the Oscars. And as someone said in the other Heath Ledger is not dead blog, it's not that easy to fake your death, the police, the people who registered his death, morticions, pathologists etc wouldn't risk faking someones death for any money. Just say he did turn up at the Oscars what would be the logic in faking his death:S
If someone fakes their death that's it they are gone. Also there were other actors who died this year. Did they fake their deaths too. There were autopsy pics of heath on the net. Are they the pics you want to see of him just to prove he is dead. Wouldn't that be upsetting. I didn't save them. I did see them and they weren't nice. Someone said they were fake but i dont think so. I wouldn't want anyone here to see them. Again Im not a hater. Im just putting stuff out there for people to think about. If he did fake his death then i hope it all works out for him. I hope he is happy wherever he is. The other guy who does the blog obviously put a lot of thought into different ways that Heath could have faked his death. I have to give him props for that but I have read all the stuff and looked at it logically. i dont think he is going to come back for the Oscars. I wish he weren't dead but seeing dead pics of him did shock me. They were on photobucket. Anyway peace.
Ewww I dont want to see dead pics of Heath. Seriously who would post autopsy pics of Heath on the net or here.
I really hope he gets the Oscar for TDK!
you did not see dead pics of heath. I googled it and nothing came up. Please don't lie. If you saw them, provide a link.
I googled it too and didn't come up with anything. Also If there were pics of him dead they would have shown up by now. So...Unless i see them I'm not going to believe it.
We're rolling up on nine months since Heath left the public eye, and still no one is stepping forward with the truth as to what really happened that fateful day in January.
We've heard nothing from Mary Kate...nothing from the masseuse....nothing from anyone.
Why hasn't anyone requested an interview with anyone involved with his death??? Why is this so hush hush?
When is this charade going to stop and someone finally admit that Heath did not die, that he's hiding out somewhere?
I've said it before and I will say it again: it is not the first time an actor has faked his death, intentionally or unintentionally. I've posted examples in the past, but this time I want to draw attention to a particular case involving the movie industry and publicity. Look at this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_premature_obituaries
Go down the list of names to Luca Barbareschi. It says, quote: "Luca Barbareschi was one of four actors who the Italian police believed had been murdered in the making of the 1980 horror film Cannibal Holocaust. So realistic was the film that shortly after it was released its director Ruggero Deodato was arrested for murder. The actors had signed contracts to stay out of the media for a year in order to fuel rumours that the film was a snuff movie. The court was only convinced that they were alive when the contracts were cancelled and the actors appeared on a television show as proof."
In this case, there was a legal contract between the director and the actors that specifically allowed the actors to fake their deaths without being legally penalized for doing so upon their return...deja vu anyone?
:D
I got this emailed to me. I dont know if it's true or not. It was allegedly taken on the 28th January 2008. I really hope he is somewhere out there.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/heath%20ledger%20dead/Pixie-Gates/Nightwish/100_0290.jpg?o=19
that's not him. that guy's nose is different from heath's. also, heath had more defined arms. and tattoos. i can see the similarity between heath and the man in the picture, but it's clearly not him.
By the by, lots of awards for TDK and our dear Heath at the Scream Awards last Saturday...I hope the Oscars are just as generous. :D
http://www.3news.co.nz/News/EntertainmentNews/George-Lucas-thrills-Scream-Awards-but-Batman-is-the-big-winner/tabid/418/articleID/76464/Default.aspx?ArticleID=76464
The dude in the picture looks a bit like him there, but if you look at this other picture in the same album, you can clearly see it is not him.
http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/Pixie-Gates/Nightwish/?action=view¤t=100_0295.jpg
Maybe it was wishful thinking ;(
And in this other picture of the same dude, in the same album, the title specifies that he is only a lookalike:
http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/Pixie-Gates/Nightwish/?action=view¤t=100_0286.jpg
Anonymous said...
He's probably going to appear when he wins an award and he will just walk up grab the award and say "Why so serious?"
7/15/2008 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
There seem to be alot of coincidences in the movie to real life. The joker brought in to the room in a body bag and the police commissioner even fakes his death. I think this could be the greatest stunt in the history of hollywood.
7/18/2008 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
i think your right... i've heard people have seen him with a shaved head and glasses with his daughter since his death.
7/18/2008 3:36 PM
Anonymous said...
Excuse me... as much as I love Heath/ Joker...
It would NOT be the greatest stunt because controversy about a celebrity has already taken place... oh about 15 years ago maybe? I dunno...
Ever heard of Andy Kaufman. ?
That was whole career... practical jokes... like the joker I guess but without killing people... and such... Andy kaufman basically went a bit too far then gained everyones love and trust back... then decided to say he had cancer... and died... but many... MANY even his family say it was a practical joke and now they have no clue where he is.
Research it.
So sorry Ledger... you'd be second in line for this... except it may be more popular due to the fact that it is now and now 20 years ago.
hahaha
It says anonymous... but I don't care..
-Mel Morley, NY, 17
7/18/2008 4:33 PM
Andrea said...
I could see this happening. I don't believe it is a publicity stunt. He might have faked his own death, knowing that this movie, with all the hype, would make viewers see him as a phenomenal actor, and up his "celebrity status quo". You know how the media is, they will follow his every move. He seemed to be a generally private person, and seemed to like living a normal life.
His ex-wife is an actress, which could result in her being in on it too. If he never came back then it wouldn't be a stunt, and the public wouldn't be able to react.
I agree with the sychroncities with the movie and the reality of his life.
7/19/2008 1:03 PM
Anonymous said...
I think it is a great possibility that Ledger is faking his death. I mean, it would be damn near impossible to successfully pull it off but If any body has that ability it would be him. Maybe he just needed a break from being in the limelight of superstardom. With his performance in The Dark Knight he will no doubtedly be considered one of the best actors of all time and maybe he just didn't want to deal with that in his personal life so he rigged up this stunt. Unlikely, but I would not be suprised.
-Mike Nasty
7/19/2008 1:08 PM
Anonymous said...
yeah after seeing The Dark Knight I began to seriously, seriously wonder I mean what are the actual chances that there would be all those "fake" deaths in the movie and then Heath just drops dead of a drug overdose plus why didn't the maid simply call 911 instead of calling little Michelle Tanner from full house yeah yeah they had to clean up the crime scene but still there were no charges pressed.
7/19/2008 5:46 PM
Anonymous said...
wait until the 27th of july then you'll all see
:D be good little clowns now!
7/20/2008 1:43 AM
Anonymous said...
Heath's death was faked. I can't tell you why but it was for a much more convoluted justification than you all seem to have fabricated. His discourse brought about was instead to protect and insure the safety of himself and presently unaware family. Unwillingness to reveal my identity shall only measure the length in time to which this entire dilemma consists.
7/20/2008 2:44 AM
Anonymous said...
they're gonna make another movie... they never showed what happened to hi at the end...
7/20/2008 4:13 AM
Anonymous said...
After spending too much time after the movie online about this, I can say that 7/27 makes sense for a re-emergence or clue.
I don't want to say more...
I can see now that its all part of the plan...
7/20/2008 9:31 PM
There is proof that he is dead and there is proof that he's not. It's hard to decide. On the one hand all the signs are there that he is dead. The post mortum and the funeral and his death cert and being on the records for the cemetary. But then all the running around on the night of his death. The fact that the masseuse didn't call an ambulance immediately, the whole Mary Kate thing and also, the fact that a young man died young and there was no investigation into it. Also how can someone "accidently" overdose on all those drugs. The Doctors who prescribed those drugs.. is nothing going to be done to them? Also all the secrecy. I read the other blog and he makes a lot of interesting points there. It could happen. No one ever saw the body apart from the body bag and that looked suspicious. There are so many questions that will never be answered. I dont think he will come back. If he did fake his death I'm not surprised. He was getting a hard time. I just hope he is happy.
Yes, but what about the life insurance policy for Matilda? Do you think Heath would commit insurance fraud so Matilda can have $10M. It seems unlikely because Matilda's already getting a $20M estate. I used to think maybe he was alive but I don't think so anymore after the 3 actors paying out money and then the life insurance policy. I realize nothing has been paid out yet as it's undergoing investigation but Heath could get into serious trouble for insurance fraud if he is alive if they eventually do pay it out.
I don't see the point in him faking his own death with this in mind. I'm not saying he didn't fake his own death cause I guess he could be under the witness protection program but I think it is highly unlikely.
Yeah he wouldn't go under witness protection just to escape fame. He wouldn't do anything to hurt Matilda. What would she think of him faking his death like that. It would be very hard for a 3 year old to keep a secret like that. The FEDS, etc wouldn't go to all that trouble just to fake his death. Also as the previous person said he wouldn't commit insurance fraud so Matilda could have $10M. I thought at first he did fake his death. But it's looking increasingly unlikely. I know there's talk on the boards about him faking his death and he will turn up at the Oscars, Mary Kate had something to do with. There is something going on there but i dont think he faked his death. I see people saying I wont believe it, he cant be dead, I dont want to believe he is gone. I think the time has come to accept that he's gone. It is sad. Im just stating my opinion if people dont agree then fine. It's hard when someone who is young and has all he had dies so suddenly. People don't want to accept it. But I dont think he's coming back.
Heath's death was faked. I can't tell you why but it was for a much more convoluted justification than you all seem to have fabricated. His discourse brought about was instead to protect and insure the safety of himself and presently unaware family. Unwillingness to reveal my identity shall only measure the length in time to which this entire dilemma consists.
7/20/2008 2:44 AM
This is the post that made me believe it. I read the first page of this blog so often... The last few days I read so maby articles about the fact that scandals are the things that people love to see and that it's the most importand thing in the media. I think everybody would love it (except emos). I'm sure that wouldn't be the problem.
-Fanta (why can we post anonymously again..)
he's dead. he's dead. he's dead. two people made excellent points on here about insurance fraud, and it's very true. one of them also made a good point that heath would never do this to matilda. some of you say that he still sees her, despite being hidden away. okay... let's say he's alive and secretly seeing her... you would think that she'd say something. what three year old can remain quiet about almost anything? seriously guys let's think of the [low] probability of this happening... he shows up at the oscars after faking his death for a YEAR? a YEAR. no. he's dead.
RIP Heath Legder - I miss you.
Rest in Peace Heath. I hate to say it but i agree with the above. He wouldn't do that and then turn up at the Oscars. Who knows if he will get nominated? Also he wouldn't hurt Matilda. It would be totally disrespectful to his fans to do that. Also his family couldn't carry it off. I dont mean any disrespect to anyone here but i think people need to accept that. I actually put a few questions on the Heath Ledger is not dead blog and the guy that was doing it deleted it. Free speech huh! I think his other blog is about the use of pot so that probably explains a few things there! I think its good that people can come on here and post their views. The person who posted that comment on the 07/20 saying that Heath faked his death, was just messing with peoples minds. Same as the 7/27 guy whoever that was. If he didn't want to be famous anymore he could have just dropped out of sight. He did for a year. Other actors have done it before him. Why go to all that trouble? Michelle wouldn't have let him do that to his daughter. He wouldn't have done it to her. There isn't any conspiracy theories going on.
http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/forums/5298/new-photo-of-heath-ledger-in-upcoming-terry-gilliam-film-the-imaginarium-of-doctor-parnassus
new pic of from heaths latest film
I thought people couldn't post anonymously. People keep writing long messages.
Most of the Anonymous posts come from the same person. I don't know what is so hard about registering and giving people a profile to look at but whatever. If things get hairy, we'll just lock it up again. :D
Geeze Deak you were giving out that the forum was disappointing and when people are posting you guys are getting all riled up about it. How do you know the posts are from the same person :S They're not spamming they are just airing their opinions. I know the Anonymous thingy was taken off because of spamming but the page got boring because no one was posting anything. Some people want to air their opinions anonymously. The forum ain't about you guys. Other people can come on and if they want to come on anonymously and state their opinions then respect. Im not coming on here to start a fight but I for one like to read the blog and if i feel like inputting anonymously then I will. There have been a couple of good points aired here recently over the whole insurance thing. It would be more detrimential for Heath to fake his death if it meant Matilda would get hurt and if he ended up in jail. Like someone said Matilda is 3 and if she was seeing her father she couldn't keep it a secret.
I was on the IMDB site and they had more pics of the last film that Heath Ledger was in. It gives more information about the film.
http://www.canmag.com/nw/12595-imaginarium-doctor-parnassus
Two letters for the anonymous: IP... cheers mate! :D
The Joker said...
Two letters for the anonymous: IP... cheers mate! :D
I'm the person who wrote that comment at 1.55 pm. What do you mean by IP:S Do you know what Joker you're not worth wasting my time over. You seem to be a bit of a childish bully who likes putting other people down either because you feel the need to or if they dont agree with your opinions. This isn't your blog it's for everyone and like I said if i feel like leaving an Anonymous comment then I will. This blog doesn't seem to be about Heath anymore it's about you guys. It's like you're in a little clique and only you guys are allowed to add to it. I know there was a lot of spamming going on earlier but maybe the reason why people aren't coming on to this blog is because there is nothing new to add or to see. It seems to be the same people saying the same things over and over again.It's tiring and boring. You have made it clear that if someone doesn't agree with your opinions that they shouldn't be on this blog,then you know what you can keep this pathetic blog. You do gang up on people and say leave this blog. It's one sided like the other heathledgerisnotdeadblog. Fine I wont bother posting here anymore. Oh & FYI I wasn't the one posting all the Anonymous comments so stop thinking the worst all the time. I'm sure Joker you'll have some smart comment thought up, you usually do anyway. It's probably how you get people to look up to you. And before the rest of you guys start on saying Im attacking the clown I'm not, I'm just sick of the way he can't handle a coversation in a mature way that he has to stoop to smart comments to make himself look good. It's sad the way people are going on and saying he faked his death HES DEAD!! get over it. Stop trying to fool yourselves into thinking he's still alive, still seeing Matilda etc. I'm reading these comments from people here and it seems desperate like you are holding on to the fact that he's out there somewhere. Why be obsessive over him. He died 9 months ago. He's never coming back. Stop trying to hold onto that. If you want to believe it fine. But you're getting your hopes up over nothing. Other people are posting here saying he's dead. Move on.
To the last post..
Awww why are you picking on The Joker so muuuch?
Why so serious?
Yeah the Joker's just kidding around! I haven't seen any posts that he/she made that shows any bullying going on. As fanta 22 said Why so serious?
Here's something to lighten the mood! :D
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rSC2XMVmncU
Anonymous, I can see how my light mood could easily be misconstrued as childish, so if I have offended you in any way, I am sorry. And FYI, IP is a computer related term that would explain how it is possible to know who is posting a comment, even if it is "Anonymous". To everybody else, please forgive me if I spend less time than usual here from now on. I will keep watching the blog to make sure nobody abuses the anonymous feature, but otherwise I will let you guys keep posting since the conversation seems to have picked up. See you around kids! :D
Fanta darling, you are one of my favorites :D
Anne, fabulous clip!
Aww Joker don't go. We all like you ;( I know I haven't been posting here this long but I think you're funny.
The Joker Rocks!
They are showing Casanova on TV this weekend. I have it on DVD like I have most of Heaths movies. But I'll probably watch it. They seem to be showing his movies recently on TV.
What happened to REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH? All I've seen on this blog is when people speculate he's alive, that's the only thing they really wanna hear. When someone comes up with evidence to support his death, some of you seem to be deaf. I agree with the above anonymous post.
We consider opinions. We still may disagree. I wasn't being mean, all i was saying is that i didn't feel like going through so many long comments. You were fine till the last couple sentences of your long post. We've said it before, if nothing happens by feb. 22 we'll prolly just forget this whole thing. Until then we're just killing time.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=two+hands+part+1&search_type=&aq=f
yo everyone watch two hands with heath ledger great movies its on youtube he wus such a great actor nice action movie the ending remined me of dark knight with the robbery check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGg9ryw4_Y
Here is the latest from Heathledgerisnotdeadblogspot ::A lot of good questions and theories from my last post....I'll try to address them.
Witness protection as the reason he faked his death....I really doubt that, but anything is possible....there aren't any rumors out there floating around about him being involved in some kind of underworld involvement or anything, because if he was it would have been leaked out to the public by now.
As for faking his death and not being able to leave the U.S., if it's easy enough for an illegal to come across the border and get into the U.S., why can't Heath cross the border in secret, then fly to Australia or New Zealand? He could have purchased a new identity, he certainly has the money to do so, or if Christopher Nolan was in on it he certainly has the money to do so and have Heath removed from the country and hidden away somewhere.
As for faking his death and his return being "suicide"..how would that be suicide? Can you imagine if Heath returned, what it would do for ticket sales of The Dark Knight? People who hadn't seen the movie yet would flock to theaters to see how this mastermind who fooled the public could have played such a pivotal role. The movie would be the greatest grossing movie of all time, probably never to be surpassed by any motion picture we would ever see in our lifetime. Maybe to Hollywood he would draw their ire, but to someone like a Chris Nolan I would only see dollar signs.
As for the life insurance and fraud, how do we know he really had a life insurance policy that was cashed in on? He could have had a fake insurance policy under the name of a trust fund that was disbursed at his order to his daughter and have it made to look like it was a life insurance policy payout...all part of the deception scheme. Why make it look like you don't care about your child and have nothing if you die when instead you can make it look like you provided for her in death?
As for why Heath faked his death, I think that a lot of it had to do with backlash from Brokeback Mountain, and he wanted to see just what the public would do with him if he was simply gone, and now that he's seen what they have done with him with his role as the Joker, he will reappear. Brokeback Mountain is a distant memory, Heath will forever be associated with the Joker, and that is exactly what he wanted to do...erase the memory of being a gay cowboy and replace it with the memory of being a anarchistic maniac. Think about it...Will Smith played a homosexual in Six Degrees of Separation...does anyone really remember that role? No, most of us remember him as Fresh Prince of Bel Air or Agent J.
Sorry if this comment is a bit long. Any thoughts on this??
I don't have a journal to log in and comment on heathledgerisnotdead.blogspot.com so I figured I'd say it here!
Look at this link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185937/trivia
I mainly want you to look at this fact: "Before the film was released, the three main actors were listed as "missing, presumed dead" on the IMDb."
It's possible that this could have happened with Heath too, I mean, why not? It was legal for them to do that to those actors and then have them appear to be alive after all.
I think the reason those three actors was missing was for the film. The whole premise of the film was that it actually happened that these guys were actually filming a documentary. People didn't know if it was true or not because there was nothing heard about them after it was seen. But it was a cleverly done. Their bodies weren't found and a funeral wasn't held for them.
It is an interesting point to make though.
I wish your statement was real ;(
It's Matilda's birthday today. She's 3. It must be really hard for her and her mom Michelle Williams. Someone on IMDB said that last year she was celebrating it with her mom and dad who were getting on well that day. What a difference a year makes. Matilda is starting to be aware of things like that. She'll want to know why her daddy isn't around anymore. So sad ;(
RIP Heath.
http://bp0.blogger.com/_2-j-WQmEjO4/SJhWASmdPQI/AAAAAAAAAA4/4-39Z2y9FKg/s1600-h/heath.JPG
HEY DID ANYONE SEE DIS
hummm would be cool if he was still alive. and it wold make sense because he REALLY hated being in the public eye so much. that would be the only way to get the pop off your butt. if he is still alive kudos heath if not rest is peace. ether way those damn people aren't following him around anymore
Woooooow dude that link isn't real in the least.
By the way, the comment above as me too... i dont know why this thing isnt taking my livejournal account, but i've come back to see if theres any new news.... i guess nothing?
No there's nothing new ;( This blog seems be slowing down. There's not as much comments as there was when it started.
I hope people don't forget about it.
okay guys, i find this to be very strange but a while ago i read somewhere that on the dark knight's blu-ray and dvd's, there will be a special feature of a comic book that will be animated. the name of it being "mad love"... what would be the point of that, exactly? are they trying to hint to us that there will be something related to harley in the sequel? maybe harley quinn and joker? i found it quite interesting, to be honest. here is the source: http://www.batman-on-film.com/TDK_DVD-info-TheNetherlands_9-18-08.html
by the way, the comic "mad love" is purely about harley quinn's love for the joker
FROM THE OTHER BLOG:!!
Australia has dropped plans to name a theatre after actor Heath Ledger after deciding he never fulfilled his potential.
After his death, West Australian premier Alan Carpenter stood next to Ledger's father Kim and announced a new venue in his hometown of Perth would be named the Heath Ledger Theatre. Mr Ledger said he was honoured and intensely proud.
But the government has now scrapped the plans for the new $91m (pounds 36m) performing arts complex after the star, just four months after they were announced.
The new premier Colin Barnett said the decision had been reversed and Ledger would be commemorated in another part of the complex.
Ledger died from an accidental prescription drugs overdose in New York in January. He was 28.
Mr Barnett said: "He was a young actor who had some great successes, and I have no doubt was headed for an outstanding career.
"But he lost his life at a very young age, so we never saw the true achievement that Heath Ledger may have made."
I call bullshit.
The real reason they aren't going to build the theater:
You can't dedicate a theater in memory of someone who isn't dead yet. I bet someone from Heath's camp told the theater not to do it and to make up some lame-ass excuse...
Heath was Oscar-nominated, acted in two Oscar-nominated movies (Monster's Ball and Brokeback Mountain), and has redefined the Joker.
Total bullshit.
That IS total bullshit. And we never saw the true achievement that Heath made? Have they SEEN Dark Knight?
Agreed muffin. Dark Knight was Heath's finest film. Also he had been Oscar nominated for Brokeback. There is something funny going on here.
Here's one guy i would vote for!!
This is for you Joker :D
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/PrettyPizzazz/Heath%20Ledger/joker22pe6.jpg
Here's some interesting news.
http://heathledgerisnotdead.blogspot.com/2008/11/paydirt.html
Hmm i read that blog Deak. As other people have said how does he know its not either one of us or someone trying to wind him up. I'm going to take it with a pinch of salt. Anyone can have a youtube account and email people saying all sorts of stuff. I think it's someone messing to be honest.
That's why I'm keeping my eye on it because we really could just be getting worked up over nothing. I wanna know why the Blogger thinks it's so significant.
IMO i think we are getting worked up over nothing Deak. The Blogger isn't going to give out any information about who sent it to him. How do we even know that it was sent to him? He could be just posting that to keep peoples interest in the blog. I've noticed recently he seems to be pulling at straws. His points seem to be getting weaker like Heath faking his death over his role in Brokeback, as other people have stated he couldn't do something like that and keep in contact with Matilda shes only 3 she wouldn't be able to keep that a secret. Also the whole theatre thing has an explanation. There is a link to a story explaining that Heaths dad was annoyed over that. It's nearly a whole year now. I'm starting to think he is dead. If the Blogger knows something he should tell us instead of posting something like that and not responding to peoples questions. Someone said that if Heath is dead then the whole Blog seems to be a bit disrespectful of Heath's memory, his family and his fans. There are people out there who want to believe Heath is alive. There are inconsistencies with the whole MK massuese thing but that could have been a tragic accident. I'll keep reading the Blogger but I'm not holding my breath anymore.
Here's the link to the story about Heath not being name after the theatre if anyone wants to read it.
http://blogs.thewest.com.au/news/ben-oshea-should-ledgers-link-to-theatre-remain/comment-page-1/#comments
And another link from the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/3278937/Australia-abandons-plans-to-name-theatre-after-Heath-Ledger.html
Hmm here's something interesting now from this Blogger!
http://heathledgerisnotdead.blogspot.com/2008/11/another-message.html
Is is true :S I dont know. I have to wonder why someone would go to the trouble of emailing him and not the Doktor Freedom guy. Surely if there is a cover up then I dont think anyone would be emailing him about it. Again I'm suspicious. This sounds like a line from Fox Mulder in the XFiles. I dont think anything is going to happen. I think it is someone who is just kidding with this guy. Again he hasn't given us any proof he got these emails. Seems a bit strange that he decides to log in and gets another email...
I don't know. I'm beginning to think this guy is like that Docktor Freedom guy. I dont know his reasoning. That's my opinion if people agree with it fine if not then whatever.
Well that Doktor Freedom guy I read somewhere in his youtube account that he is mentally unstable. It looked like his sister responded by saying not to listen to him because he is retarded (although I really hate using that word) and shouldn't be trusted for information. If he really believes it, I can understand why he would put that bag over his head like that.
At least the blogger guy seems to have mental clarity (although a bit in denial I think). I agree he has just been grasping as straws lately and the only thing or "EVIDENCE" he has is coincidences. Coincidences don't stand up and it seems to me that he is really gone now.
Oops he being Heath** sorry.. I want to make that clear.
As opposed to Doktor Freedom ROFL. He is one crazy dude. He said some bodyguards who killed someone who took a photo of "Heath" at his funeral lol! Seriously the bag over head thing is crazy. But I kinda knew he had mental problems. People shouldn't take seriously. That blogger dude is very clever. He put his ideas across well at the start. But as with the above post it is probably just coincidence or fate idk. But he has this idea that there is some big conspiracy going on there. I dont think there is. I think Heath is dead unfortunately ;(
Yeah that dude IS crazy. I didn't even buy that crap, he looks too tiny to be a bodyguard anyway. But the guy who has the blog on the other site has some pretty good ideas and theorys. And they make sense too. He seems like a pretty smart guy.
I've been reading this blog since it started and the other HeathLedgerisnotdead Blogger. He is a smart guy who does put his ideas across well. But lately I've been wondering about him. I've read that he has been getting emails from "someone" who said you are right. Anyone could be sending these emails from their You Tube. I feel like he really wants to believe this guy and the rest of us do as well. But I dont know. I know people want to believe that he faked his death and will turn up at the Oscars and this will have been a bad joke. I wanted it too! But what if it hasn't? What if he really is dead? I dont want to be clutching at straws and waiting for February and being really disappointed and going through it all again. Some of the stuff the Blogger said made sense but they could just be coincidences. I'm starting to think that it was just a tragic accident and no one was to blame. Yes the masseuse should have called 911 instead of calling Mary Kate. That was wrong of her. I do agree with that but looking the whole scenario, faking a death would be fraud, the whole autopsy thing, the insurance etc. Could someone really pull all that off. The Governmenet would have gotten involved. Would they risk their jobs for an Austrailian actor. If he really wanted to quit acting he could have done it like Joaquin Phoenix did. Also think about Matilda, how would he feel knowing that by faking his death that she could get hurt by all this. Matilda is a 3 year old. If and it's a slight if he is in contact with her how could she keep it a secret. Most 3 year olds would understand a secret like that. She would have surely said something by now. I'm starting to think that he isn't going to come back after all. I hope I don't get flamed for saying this. I have enjoyed reading this blog. But I dont think he faked his death. I kind of feel bad in a way that I hoped he had faked his death. Maybe I just wasn't ready to accept that this brilliant, gorgeous, talented young man was no more. That we weren't going to see him again. Hear his voice. It was a big shock for me because he is younger than me. I wished he had faked his death for our sakes and his daughers. Imagine growing up without a dad in your life. IMO i think he's gone. I have to start accepting that. It is sad and heartbreaking but its true. He was totally brilliant as the Joker and he will live on in his films.
RIP Heath!!
Here's something interesting :D
Could The Dark Knight reach a billion dollars!
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/download-the-dark-knight-script-as-it-nears-1-billion
Anyone around?
Heath Ledger is not dead. He is locked in my basement along with Elvis, Tupac, Biggie, and Santa Claus. Every night I hear them scream for help (and Biggie screams for food). Elvis is in the best shape of his life. Tupac b caput. As for Santa, he doesn't give a fuck because he is worshipped now more than ever and he grows fat on the sacrifices we make to feed his commercialistic soul.
*Shakes head*
^_^
Heath Ledger is dead. Faking your own death is not only illegal, it is a FELONY. Also, here are the facts -
-The people that would love it being a hoax are 16 year old kids, who probably thought he wasn't even making another movie after TDK. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS - AND QUOTE ME - Heath ledger was filming another movie when he died. Do you know ow many people it takes to make a film? Not only would TDK have to be in on it, the new movie he was filming's ENTIRE STAFF would.
- HEATH LEDGER WOULD NOT BE VIEWED AS CLEVER FOR HIS ACTIONS. The ENTIRE movie realm as well as NORMAL people would see the act as disgraceful, and would condemn him forever. People who have LOST LOVED ONES, as I have, would view the act as a mockery of death, which is a painful, uniquely terrible experience for those close to it.
-THE JOKER CHARACTER WAS NOT THE REASON FOR HEATH'S PASSING. That was a hype created by NAIVE PEOPLE, just like those of you who think that this death is a hoax. Heath's intense PREPARATION (key word, preparation) Was so that he was not criticized for any similarities between himself and jack's joker.
So GROW UP. A death hoax, especially one that is for the sake of cleverness or hype, would not be possible, let alone a good move in ANY WAY for those involved. Have some respect for a good actor, and let him die.
I completely agree with Anonymous.
-Pat
guys I am sorry i was so busy lately I didnt check your blog in a while but I'm with you with my body, heart and soul. So I hope everyone is doing well and I'm glad you are still posting, you have my support. I hope Heath is doing well as well, will be around here, let me know how I can help.
Re the Doktor Freedom youtube vids. The person posting those comments saying that she was his sister was just messing. If you check their profile it shows they were from Ireland! Also they left a profile on one of those guys vids saying that they were present at Heaths Autopsy so I wouldn't take any notice of that.
IMO i don't think that Heath faked his death. But I do think the masseause should be brought in for questioning. I mean WTF why ring MK Ho-lson and not 911! If I was doing a massage at some guys place and I found him unconcious the first thing I would do would be to ring 911 and the cops. Why ring Mk for:S Unless there were other types of drugs there and she didn't want the cops finding out about them. It does seem strange that a 28 year old man got those drugs and died from taking them. Maybe Mary Kate gave them to him. I still don't understand why no one was questioned about it. Heath seemed to be an intelligent young man who had so much going for him. The frustrating thing is we are never going to see his potential. Also the masseause wasn't licenced so how did she end up working for Heath? Unless MK knew her and recommended her to Heath. There is some sort of cover up going on here. I wonder will we ever find out about it.
Sorry for the long post.
Oops me again! Sorry I forgot to add this to the previous comment that I made. The Blogger that everyone is talking about hasn't updated his page for 2 weeks now. I wonder is he running out of theories too?
What are people's thoughts on this? Do you think someone actually emailed him with some information and he has to investigate it before coming up with another entry or did he even get an email?
He hasn't given out any other information apart from what he said on his entry. It seems strange that he is taking what the person said on board. I mean how does he know it's not one of us or someone who read his entries trying to trip him up or mess around with his head?
There seems to be a lot of coincidences but no real answers? When people have asked him about it he hasn't gotten back to them. He logged onto his YouTube a week ago so maybe he hasn't gotten anything new to add.
hahaha! this board is just about dead now! so is the blogger who used to update every two weeks. I think people are FINALLY realizing how absolutely RIDICULOUS it is that heath would fake his death.
RIP Heath, see ya again someday!
i just don't get people who say it's ridiculous to belive heath is dead,but they keep reading this kind of blogs, as in heath is not dead blogs...why do you bother searching or looking for this kind of stuff if you think it would be disrespectfull for him or his family and so on... this kind of people wouldn't have a problem accepting his death therefore wouldn't be lookng and reading this blogs...they just wouldn't bother...or is there some kind of hope?
Samar: both the endless hopefull and the quick to dismiss any argument types are but two sides of the same coin...like you said, the simple fact that this person is HERE bothering to read this, means deep down he or she is still hoping, no matter how quick he or she is to put others down when they speak of hope or how acid his or her comments may be. And yes, the blog is dormant, because everything has already been said...what else is there? But the people who made this blog with their comments are still out there and the flicker of hope is still within them.
Well said Joker!
And I bet after the Oscars( no matter what will happen, or not happen) the blog will be again "alive" for a while, and then will "die" again...
Go Get'em Heath!
Bah, guys. I'm so sad. I'm one of those people who still hope that he is alive but I'm crying anyway because, I no longer have that strong optimism I had when I started posting here about six months ago. Nothing's happened and I miss the guy.
its december and i still can't believe hes dead. wishful thinking.
I hope he's out there somewhere. He should be nominated for an Oscar for the Joker :)
Dark Knight on video today
Yeap! Got mine already, will be watching it tonight :D
I might be the last one on earth, but I finally saw The Dark Knight last night after buying the video on the first day of sale. What I kept seeing throughout the movie went like this: "...22...fake death...22...fake death...22..." The number "22" kept appearing over and over, and there was more than one death which we were told was true, but which turned out to be fake and it was a surprise to find out the person was really still alive. It felt like a message was being telegraphed throughout the movie. And then what happens on the very first 22 date of the year that TDK is released, January 22? A death which we were told is true, but which does not seem to be true to some of us.
Thats wut someone said on the blog come people have some faith why did this board die we just gotta find out FEB 22
where did you keep seeing the number 20 two? Explain
Spec
First of all, why would someone make a point to come onto a board like this and crush someone's hopes of a person they care about still being alive? Who is it hurting? Tell me that. Secondly, I too, am one of the so-called LedgerHeads that believes there's a chance he MAY still be alive. I'm not saying he is, I'm not saying he isn't. I'm just saying it's possible. I could post a list of what makes me sort of want to believe it on here, but it's been posted already too many times to read.
I will say this much. Someone tell me why they went to all the trouble to show him on a gurney in a body bag. Why they had to make it known to the world that he was cremated. Why all the descrepancies in the autopsy and the toxicology report? Why was Mary Kate called first? Why is only a limited amount of money turning up in his bank accounts and assets? Why was is family dancing and laughing at his *memorial* service? My mama died when I was 18, and she was cremated and we sure as F*CK weren't dancing or smiling at ALL. I could go on and on.
The thing that really got my attention on this matter, was watching the E! True Hollywood Story about Heath the other day...all the comments and quotes from him about being so miserable about the spotlight and the media and photographers. The way he acted when he was on the red carpet. Just everything about him screamed "LEAVE ME ALONE, LET ME BE!"
For those of you that think he wouldn't do that to his daughter, why wouldn't he? He loved her, and that would be reason ENOUGH to take is own death to keep her from having to live that completely public lifestyle that would have emcompassed him and his entire family after The Dark Knight came out. Yes it would suck and no doubt break his heart to leave her, but he would think she would be better off growing up "normal." And who's to say that if he DID do this thing, a few years from now, he wouldn't start communicating with her, once all the hype has died down? She would probably understand. I would.
Those of you saying it CAN'T be done, get real. If you have enough fame and enough money, then you can make just about anybody disappear, including YOURSELF. Do any of you not know about the mafia? I mean come ON! And where did all that money go that Michelle's dad was hunting for eh? Explain that one. If he's really dead, surely he didn't take it WITH HIM!
All I'm saying is that given all of these inconsistancies and possibilities and loopholes in his death, I say it's possible. For those of you that don't agree or think we're foolish for believing, then go post on a HEATH LEDGER IS DEAD forum, and STOP bothering this one. There is not a thing in this world wrong with harboring hope, whether it is false hope or real hope.
And just for the record, we are NOT all 16 year old girls. Yes I'd love for him to be alive for selfish reasons, but at the same time, if he comes back into the public eye ten years from now, I will be overjoyed, not pissed. I feel that we were robbed, and if there's a chance that he's still alive, then GET OVER IT! Like I said, WHO IS IT HURTING???? NOT A DAMN PERSON! Stop being a f'n killjoy already!
It's Christmas, let us have happy thoughts, dammit!
-LedgerHead
AND to all of you that insist that faking your own death is a felony or whatever, so what? If he never "comes back" or never gets caught, he can't be convicted can he? No he cannot. So stop bitching, leave everyone on here alone that is keen to keep hope alive. I don't however believe that he will reappear at the oscars, or that he will reappear anywhere. Period. That would defeat the entire purpose if he DID fake his death. Because if he went to all that trouble, I guarantee it was not for publicity, as that was what he tried to AVOID most of the time. Get a clue people, come on!
I will also say this, stop looking for clues. I don't think there will be any. Kind of like the ending to The Dark Knight, this story's ending is open to interpretation and will probably forever remain a conspiracy theory. If this was done, this is not something that will be taken lightly or revealed anytime in the immediate foreseeable future.
Did Heath Ledger really die on January 22nd, 2008, or does he live still? The world may never know. Though I do find it INCREDIBLY odd that the Oscar noms are set to come out one year to the day of his death...just sayin...
-LedgerHead
In The Dark Knight, at the end of the 6 minute prologue the school bus the Joker drives out of the bank reads “DISTRICT 22” on the side.
When Batman gets to Hong Kong and shoots stick-on time bombs onto the windows of a tall office building, the timer is shown to count down and the last time we see is 2:22, two minutes, twenty-two seconds. That is at 34:46 into the movie if you want to look for it.
And then there is Harvey Dent’s lucky coin, which we see over and over again, with the date 1922 on it.
And here's a little bonus for you. The one and only movie starring Heath that was in theaters at the time that the news said he was found dead in his apartment is the one that is titled, “I’m Not There.” Did you catch that? The News: "Look! Heath's dead in his apartment!" Heath: "I'm not there." Odd, to say the least. During the promotion for I'm Not There, Heath said the following, in which he mentions the number 22 and says he feels good about dying, right in the same sentence:
***“You learn more about yourself through your child, I guess. And I think you also look at death differently. Like, I, um, it’s like a catch-22, like I feel good about dying now because I feel like I’m alive in her, you know, but at the same hand you don’t want to die because you want to be around for the rest of her life. It’s kind of like an interesting kind of little setup.”***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkromR5LR6s
this is something someone said on the other Blog:
"Well, I have been reading most of the postings and I agree that perhaps it is a difficult story to put together in that it doesn't make sense.. I have gathered information from some research I did on the topic of Heath's supposed death and I have to say it is a thing of beauty in a sense that it is so obvious that something is at a miss that you have to question the intention...
Well all I can say is Heath wherever you are take good care of yourself and live a good life... and keep on writing us...
Look after yourself :)
And for those of you that think that perhaps celebs and important people like such don't waist time looking at blogs well let me tell you I know lots of celebs and improtant dudes and dudettes that I talk too online and they are facinated by what people talk about when it comes to them and their image but mostly when it is positive like this blog I think we are on to something here maybe but most defenitely...
Cheers all !!"
It's on the thread that was there for an entire month before the blogger updated. Am I the only one who thinks it's a little fishy??
This blog was originally started with the idea that Heath's death was a publicity stunt. That comment has since been removed from the top of the blog.
There's a new interview online with Terry Gilliam, the director and co-writer of Heath's last movie, in which he says this was his reaction when he first heard the news:
"I went in the office and it was there on the BBC website that Heath had been found dead. My first reaction was that it was Warner Brothers, it was a publicity stunt."
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/CityHome.asp?xfile=data/citytimes/2008/December/citytimes_December130.xml§ion=citytimes&col=
Yes, Highlander he does say that, but then he goes on to say " My first reaction was that it was Warner Brothers, it was a publicity stunt. Of course it wasn’t. We were so close to Heath, he was like family, it was terrible so we just lay on the ground for the rest of the day and that was it. I still can’t believe it and there are days where I’m not quite sure he is dead because I work with him every day in the editing room.”
I luv heath and no i do not believe it
Heath's Death-
"The actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday afternoon in an apartment in Manhattan, according to the New York City police. Some signs pointed to an accidental overdose or a suicide, although no note was found, police sources said. Mr. Ledger was 28."
Nick Drake's Death-
"On 25 November 1974, Nick Drake, a 26 year old English guitarist, singer and songwriter died at his parents Tanworth-in-Arden home from an overdose of the anti-depressant drug Tryptizol. The coroner at the time declared the death a suicide, yet family and friends suggested it was an accidental overdose, following upon a long period of depression. According to official accounts, there was no suicide note discovered and friends said that Nick was in a relatively good frame of mind at the time."
what Heath thought of Nick-
"I was obsessed with his story and his music and I pursued it for a while and still have hopes to kind of tell his story one day," a soft-spoken and fidgety Ledger told the assembled media, though he also said that any such aspirations had "faded away."
and then he directed this-
(hard to watch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPKnGo_WOp4
WOW
a) this is a huge coincedence, a REALLY REALLY huge coincedence.
b) We dont want to believe, but this could point to a copycat type of suicide.
c) this could just add one more reason to think that this is all a little too, theatrial, to be real. We would love to believe this...
what do you all think?
Dont lose faith,
-Topsy+Crets
he's just an actor like a multitude of actor out there, some get to be in films, some on stage. Many give amazing performances, other not so much. He died as a result of over-medicating. Enough said, let the man rest in peace and enjoy his work for what it was, entertainment.
Yes, that video is incredibly sad but also beautiful. The story on the video is that it was shown at a couple of small film festival type occasions, but the full video has never been on the internet and is not available anywhere. The one on YouTube is supposed to be only just part of Heath's video. And if it isn't real clear what happens at the end of the video, that's supposed to be Heath committing suicide by drowning, although I don't know that's a fact without getting to see the full video, and even then sometimes there is interpretation to consider, as to what things actually are intended to mean.
The Nick Drake Song "Black Eyed Dog" is about depression. It's a quote from Winston Churchill, who suffered from depression, which he called a "black dog," the beast that tormented him.
You can watch a short video clip of Heath saying what is quoted in the previous post here:
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=204868
Heath was co-owner of a bar in Brooklyn that opened this year. All the early news articles said the bar was to be named BrightSide, because it was on the bright side of the street. But shortly before it opened the news articles said the name was Five Leaves, which is taken from the Nick Drake album Five Leaves Left. Heath's family changed the name after he died, which seems really odd, but only because we don't know what really goes on in private.
Not that there's anything much on the webpage, but here is the bar's website: http://www.fiveleavesny.com
Here's a news article about the bar from last September:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/somewhere-to-go-on-a-dark-knight-ledgers-ny-bar-20080914-4gay.html?page=-1
The video makes me think about life itself, what is all about. It makes me re-evaluate everything and everyone around me and see if they are worth the trouble. Why do we do the things we do, live the way we live? What do I really want? The moment we start being honest with ourselves we may find that we do a great deal of things to make other people happy but that we hurt ourselves in the process. That's when you know you need to do something, turn it around, go the way you are supposed to go, not the way everybody else wants you to go. Then you make choices and realize not everybody is going to be happy with them, but you know what? I don't want to reach the end of the road and feel like I didn't live. I want to get to the end feeling I did everything I ever wanted to do, that's what I want...:D
I enjoy this. I enjoy this hype about Heath being alive. Because I know in my heart that he is.
I want to share a bit of information with you all to help you keep hope alive...true, many of you aren't into psychics and the stars and whatnot, but I do firmly believe in most of it and took this to heart.
I'm from Brooklyn, now living in Los Angeles. I went back in November to visit family. While out in SoHo for the day I decided to stop to see ol' 421 Broome Street. I got to the door and started shaking. I didn't know what to do for a minute, so I cleared my mind and closed my eyes.
The first thing that popped in my head was "ring the bell." I knew I couldn't possibly do that, taking the chance for getting in trouble for such a thing (not to mention the buzzer on the front door does have a camera on it). I tried to shake off the feeling but it wouldn't leave me alone. I started to walk down the street a little bit, and dropped my cigarette. When I stood back up, I turned to my right and was looking straight into the eyes of a psychic in her shop. She was ushering me to come in, in some sense of urgency. So, obviously, I did.
I said nothing to her but that I had a strange feeling that something wasn't true (that Heath wasn't dead, but I didn't tell her that. Never give a psychic information you want to know more about). She read my cards and finally looked up at me and said "His father was just here a week ago."
Kim Ledger was in SoHo in November. Namely, Broome Street.
Not even a month later, Heath's apartment was taken back off the market.
He loved Matilda too much to leave her..he has said time and time again, he would do anything for his little girl. If he is still alive, everybody would assume he's hiding out somewhere remote and distant.....right?
Or is he still in his old apartment? Maybe his stuff still is.....
This is just how I feel. So far, I've agreed 100% with everyone on here and I urge everyone to keep hope alive.
I have just seriously figured out some crazy things regarding these thoughts.... I two have had a very....very strong feeling about this! Take January 22, 2008 .... find 1 as A 22 as V 20 as T and 08 as H, take his age 28, 2 as B and again 8 as H. Play with the letters taking into consideration that the next movie is going to be based around CAT Woman which will be played by "Rachel" shivers I know. His daughter is 3 = C. In the picture of his bodyguards wheeling out his body, there is a cop car with the numbers 14 / 21 which give you N and U... this is a bit of a stretch but if you add 1 + 2 and 2 is 5 which gives you a E... now take these letters and spell it out The Bat Can't Hunt Heath!..... if you play with them more there are a lot of other coiencidences. I may sound like a freak but I'm being serious!
I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE!!!
the joker in full costume was spotted in a skate park skate boarding amd people got pictures of it!
in google images type in 'joker skateboarding' one of the websites it links to it has a picture of him without the joker stuff on!
plus people thought he was a big fan but then paperazzi came in saw it was him and he made a hasty retreat! and they heard him say why so serious and they could tell completly it was him! the media never picked it up but a few websites did....
i hope its true he was spotted in california!
i hope its all true hes my favourite actor and i couldnt quite believe he was dead it just felt wrong. i dunno why though
if heath is dead though R.I.P!
^^^^Oh Plus i am a true believer of him being alive!^^^^
^^^^^plus my name is hannah^^^^^ for the list also i really only have just found this website and i've known for a while about the skateboarding trick
if it was him hopefully he will accept his oscar he will live on and make more movies direct like he wanted to and be a loving father and watch his daughter grow into a wonderful woman. i just hope if he is alive he wont stay in the shadows everyone misses him and he only really just became huge because of the dark knight (and partially his death) plus if he was alive wouldnt the paperazzi just find him and take pictures but i have to say his style changes alot
please write more comments freaky guy who said look out on this date
Look, I understand why you all want Heath Ledger to be alive. He was a fantastic actor after all. And Hell, he went out with a bang as the Joker. But if he was really willing to give up his career, he would not need to fake his own death for some peace and quiet. Once you're out of the limelight for a while, people just stop caring. Another thing. If he has enough money to pull off a grand scheme like faking his own death, then he definitely wouldn't need any more and he would have enough to escape the paparazzi on a deserted Island somewhere like Johnny Depp. Get a life and stop worrying about the one Heath lost.
I love Heath Ledger!
It feels like he is alive but i no he is not.
Its really hard to face him being dead cos i was such a big fan so when people say "omg just get over it" well its not that easy.
I suppose he could of pulled it off and then he could come back when he wins best actor at the Oscars and he could have all of his family in on this aswell, he might just need some time away from the spotlight to spend time with his little girl and he might even need a year away to get of the drugs, The movie was made before he died and he was in the middle of starting another one but i suppose that it is a bit wierd as the 'Joker' did say stuff like "Its all part of the plan" and he came in a body-suit thing.
I doubt that he is alive because why would he put all of his fans through this?! I would still be a MASSIVE fan of him still but its all a bit fake anyway isn't it.
It isn't illegal to fake your own death only if it was a money scam, He would get more attention if he was alive and came back, but i'm guessing he's not.
I hope he is alive coz i love him so much,
but dont get your hopes up becuase it probaly isn't true,
if it isn't true lets ALL let him rest in peace!
RIP - Heath Ledger!
Love you now and for always.. Evie.H! <3
I kind of agree with the previous post. I still keep hoping that he is alive and well and happy. I know that he hated being in media spotlight but he wouldn't hurt his fans. But there are people out there who do on some level believe that he has faked his death. Will he come back from the Oscars? I don't know! No one does. No one can predict what's going to happen. I would never tell anyone to get a life for believing Heath faked his death. Who am I to judge. If people want to believe it then who is it hurting? This is a blog that anyone can come and comment. There are a lot of stuff that went on that night that we will not know about. I do wonder what Mary Kates part in all of this. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered. If he's gone rest in peace man! You were a great actor. If he's out there somewhere then I hope he's happy. If he does come back and it was a fake I for one won't judge him or be angry.
It's New Years day here so Happy New Year!!
http://my2k.deviantart.com/art/isn-t-gonna-happen-guys-95605755
I posted one on tge 31.12.08 - Evie.H!
Anyway i watched The Dark Knight again and thinking about it is a bit wierd how Gorden Faked death then comes back when its his time to be big becuase he wants to pretect his family well maybe Heath is faking his death but will come back when its his time of glory -The Oscars 09! Maybe he needed time away to spend time with his family or to pretect them - i mean he just play 'The Joker' people after that might not like him - doubt it but maybe!
I doubt that he is alive but let all hope and pray that he is!
We dont no at the moment so let him RIP!
He was a great actor and person, Hope i meet him in Heaven!
RIP Heath Ledger - Evie H <3
Are all intelligent creatures are gone who don't rip miss wanna fuck heath ledher?
joker,dalton,fanta,deak.. where you're at?
In In 19 days the oscar nominations will be announced. On the 22nd of january..
Strange that. He will probably get nominated for the Joker who faked his Death.. hmm
the 22 of january was when he died and then the oscars is a month later. hmmm somethings fishy here....
Maybe we are getting closer to the answer...
and maybe we just cant accept that hes gone i know i doesnt feel right i thnk that was because it was so sudden and it was greatly exaggerated but hopefully (very slim chance) he is alive reading every word we post or maybe hes in heaven seeing how much people miss him and feeling upset with all the wonderful things behind but i hope and pray he'll turn up at the oscars surprise everyone and accept his oscar.
Heath is still alive!!!!!! We'll find out in time, there's just so many speculations, and I don't believe for one second that was Heath in that body bag. The person looked to small and thin.
in Heath's wikipedia it used to say he had a tattoo on his wrist that said KAOS,the letters of his mother and sisters names,and it was taken off.strange.
can't wait for the oscars!
i forgot to post the picture of it
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq57/thisisthebeginning/brazil1.jpg
;)
I just found out when the dates of the oscars are, and it's January 22...the day Heath 'died', just a year ago. Do you think this means anything?
Also, take a look at this link. Can anyone tell if the photos are fake? Not sure if this is a lagitatmate(spelling?) story or not....
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://scrapetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Entertainment/Images/heath-ledger-joker-skateboarding.jpg&imgrefurl=http://scrapetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Entertainment/pages/Heath-Ledger-found-alive-and-well-in-California-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html&usg=__K-uS0LHJpGQKj3M82l9p3-MK_R4=&h=800&w=635&sz=133&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=EzBEnMT0yRZbTM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djoker%2Bskateboarding%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GWYE_en%26sa%3DN
I am a huge believer that Heath is still alive. Just waiting for him to show up at the Oscars.
Sorry, the last link didn't work. I feel like this is spam.SORRY ! D8
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/pages/Heath-Ledger-found-alive-and-well-in-California-Scrape-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html
I'm still here reading BTW.
Deak-
I was the one who posted the link above and such.
Too bad I came a little bit too late for this board, it seems so interesting. I wish I could have found it earlier - for I find this really interesting. While I know that there's a huge, large, 99.99% chanse that he's positivly dead, I feel in my spirit that he's still out there somewhere. Yet the sad part is that if he is still out there, he probably still won't come back. But oh well. If he doesn't come back between January 22 - February 22, then it's basically over. I really hope he comes back :[
-Duckii
Oscar nominations are Jan 22, the Oscar's are Feb 22 "2/22"
Heath "hibernated" for a year afterall,eh?
I sure hope so. I'm just worried that if he really is dead that we'll be disappointed and stuff. Yet if he faked his death and never comes out, then we'll never know. Maybe he'll come out like, 50 years from now. Or maybe he'll come out and had surgery and stuff, yet when he's a 'normal person' and goes to the 'normal doctor', and gets blood work done, they'll figure out he's the famous Heath Ledger.
Oh well. XD
I was just rambling on about things that could happen.
I SO HOPE HE FAKED HIS DEATH. <3
He must come out January 22, 2009 ... or February 22, 2009 ... if he doesn't by then, and he doesn't show up in the third batman movie, then it's just over.
-Duckii
Happy new year folks. I was out of town for a while, for whoever was looking for me.
Deak, man good to see you here still!.
Whoever posted the comment about the KAOS tattoo, do you have a link that says he took it off? That would be interesting, since it was very noticeable.
Well. The oscars at 22nd of February should bring light into all of this. Will he reappear? It would be a good chance. But it could have been the third Batman Movie.
-Fanta
http://media.photobucket.com/image/the%20dark%20knight%20oscars/cineblogywood/joker-oscars.jpg?o=1
I dunno if you guys have seen this yet, but check it out.
Ry.
x
The Joker-
I meant that on his wikipedia it used to say he had that tattoo but wikipedia took it off. He didn't have it removed,that website just removed that information about him.
-JL
Ps. Thanks Ryiot
LOL
people who are saything that if he was 'hiding away and sneaking to see matilda but that wouldn't work because she's 3 and she would tell' well I dunno about you but i havn't seen matilda interviewed latley. people arn't going to go up to a three year old and question her, come on.
Yeah I was rummaging through photobucket and found it and was like, what's this? Is it a promo for the oscars, or the dark knight? it doesn't look fan made.
hmmm
Ry.
x
Wow, Ry. That's really interesting that they'd make a poster advertising for the Oscars 'Dark Knight' related. Yes, the Dark Knight is the major thing with the Oscars right now, but what if it's something more...for instance, the so called dead Joker showing up to accept his award?
-Duckii
it'd be quite the show. seeing everyones reactions. sadly enough i've spent about the last hour reading through everyone's posts.
if he showed up at the oscars, at first i'd be mad for about 10.8 seconds and then i would burst into tears of joy. even if he was arrested or whatever for whatever counts, just the relief of knowing that he's on the same planet as i am would would relieve me of the past 11 months of stress..
oh, one can hope.
Ry.
x
who knows,maybe you see him sitting on a sidewalk somewhere
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq57/thisisthebeginning/brazil4.jpg
*you'll, but you get the point
Wow thanks for the picture Ry. Awesome.. If Heath Ledger won't get the Oscar for this performance..then what should anyone get an Oscar for? How much better can acting f*cking get?
-Fanta
"And I thought my jokes were bad."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathcliff_(Wuthering_Heights)
Out of curiosity, what does the link above have to do with anything? *isconfused*
-duckii
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg142/cineblogywood/joker-oscars.jpg
Hm I acutally didn't know that he spent two weeks with his family in Perth right before he died. I don't get it. Why would he take these pills against depression then..you should be happy when you saw your family after a while again :) Or he could have talked about it with his family. I guess we will never know what happened.
-Fanta
Oh well that was the wrong link :D
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23182658-5015809,00.html
-Fanta
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23362181-5015809,00.html
and a prominent Perth car dealer believed to have met Ledger just once.
But 17 of Heath's aunts, uncles and cousins, including his godparents, were absent.
Alright well there was a "prominent car dealer" at the funeral? Wasn't a van stolen from Heath?? And 17 of Heath's relatives weren't there..Because they're not in on it or really because of the row over money? ...
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