Heath Ledger's Death Was Faked

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Anonymous said...: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ut9vklH7A1w

LAST ONE; 7/27/2008 5:49 PM
Anonymous said...: never seen that..not sure about it though; 7/27/2008 5:49 PM
Anonymous said...: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ut9vklH7A1w

LAST ONE; 7/27/2008 5:49 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah i'm reeaaally not sure about that. some of the points he makes are ridiculous. some are worth looking into, but most of them can be easily explained.; 7/27/2008 6:29 PM
Anonymous said...: lol. just to let you know, those videos contradict each other. for example. he's living in Canada, but he's also living with his daughter? Matilda is living in NYC with her mother.

I'm not saying that Heath Ledger couldn't still be alive, I'm just suggesting that the creator of these videos get his ideas straight before he spreads them around.; 7/27/2008 6:45 PM
Anonymous said...: i agree; 7/27/2008 6:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Okay, so I have waited ALLLLLLLL day for something drastic to happen, nothing has happened 7/27 guy. >=/ I wasted my day for nothing.; 7/27/2008 7:58 PM
Anonymous said...: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ut9vklH7A1w

this one too.. i just do not thing that they killed the photogrpaher :D

tamta; 7/27/2008 9:38 PM
Anonymous said...: i do not agree with the poster either. But keep thinking that he is still alive :d

tama; 7/27/2008 9:39 PM
Anonymous said...: personally I dont believe either of those videos. I think it is just one person (whom I might add probably isn't a body guard) trying to find the littlest evidence that he is alive. It isn't solid enough for me...sorry; 7/27/2008 9:55 PM
Anonymous said...: so nothing happened. oh well.; 7/27/2008 10:27 PM
Anonymous said...: =[=[=[=[=[=[=[=[=[ :(; 7/27/2008 11:22 PM
Anonymous said...: awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww; 7/27/2008 11:24 PM
Anonymous said...: what was the big surprise that was suppose to "knock our socks off"?

I still believe though

Spec; 7/27/2008 11:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Those are some crazyyy videos.
I have a question though.
What exactly happened today, 27th guy.
I was not able to keep up with comic con so can some please explain what has happened??
thank youu; 7/28/2008 12:07 AM
Anonymous said...: I want this to be true so badddd
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elaborate
explain
anybody
please.

just fill me in on what happened at comic con even if he wasnt that exciting; 7/28/2008 12:11 AM
Anonymous said...: well even if he did fake his death people shouldnt tell on him, that would be lame. that is extreme; 7/28/2008 12:30 AM
Anonymous said...: so much for 7/27; 7/28/2008 12:55 AM
Anonymous said...: So nothing happedn today, huh... :(
ashie xo <3; 7/28/2008 2:03 AM
Anonymous said...: creep...; 7/28/2008 4:22 AM
Anonymous said...: ugghh i knew that he was trying to fake us out but i still hoped SOMETHING would happen...; 7/28/2008 6:21 AM
Anonymous said...: Well I just want to know what 27 guy has to say about it all. Speak up pleaseeeee.

Honestly just let me know what happened at comic con (as i stated before) just so i can understand what happened there. tell me even if it wassn't that exciting.

PLEASE; 7/28/2008 10:16 AM
Anonymous said...: im not sure about those vids. but honestly, if heath faked his death i dont think he would've came back at comicon. a stunt this big wouldnt end at some dorky comic book place. he would reveal himself somewhere big.
btw, did anything happen at comicon yesterday??; 7/28/2008 1:28 PM
Anonymous said...: the only thing that i saw was that tons of peopls were dressed as the joker; 7/28/2008 1:41 PM
Anonymous said...: do they have a place i can go to to see everything that happened at comic con? like pictures and stuff?

and 27th person speak up a bit; 7/28/2008 7:27 PM
Anonymous said...: WeLL, I muST sAy... tHaT wAS a bUMmEr! aND hEre I ThoUgHt aTlEAst OnE Of YoU woULd PiCk Up on WhAt hApPenED YesTeRdAy. NeiTHer HaVe tHE NeWs MedIA! I gUeSs wE'LL juST hAvE tO wAiT TiLL iTs rEpOrTEd In tHE nEwS! UnLeSs OnE oF yOu NotIcE iT fIRst!!! :); 7/28/2008 7:41 PM
Anonymous said...: Fuck!! i dont know if ur just saying that to cover ur ass or cuz something really did happen. i'll find it. i just need to know where to look. someone please.; 7/28/2008 7:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Fuck!! i dont know if ur just saying that to cover ur ass or cuz something really did happen. i'll find it. i just need to know where to look. someone please.; 7/28/2008 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Fuck!! i dont know if ur just saying that to cover ur ass or cuz something really did happen. i'll find it. i just need to know where to look. someone please.; 7/28/2008 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...: sory for the quadruple post my computer is gay; 7/28/2008 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Mr. 7/27 (as you've apparently been named), it seems to me like you're just trying to "cover ur ass" as the person before me has said. I'm willing to spend at least a certain amount of time continuing with your crazy, but you're gonn a have to give more info or at least a decent clue if you don't want people to assume you're just being dumb.; 7/28/2008 8:58 PM
Anonymous said...: sry that person has the wrong information on that 2nd video, heath WAS done filming the Dark Knight, christian bale hadn't finished his filming and that picture was taken in jan of 08 not march, believe me, if that was in march, i think it would be all over the news; 7/28/2008 10:30 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah, and seriously, i don't know about this mr. 7/27. if something happened i'm sure the media would be all over it. but then again, they might not be paying attention to comic-con, so..agh! dunno what to believe.

dot; 7/28/2008 11:22 PM
Anonymous said...: True true. Comic con isn't an entirely special thing to the media. 27 guy. I was totally looking foward to some clue. Could you please elaborate....just a little. I wasn't home during the 27th I was actually at some acting and modeling classes I am taking so it's not like I could've kept up with anything anyway. Puh-leaseeee.

I loveee Heath and just want to know something, whether I believe it or not.; 7/28/2008 11:27 PM
Anonymous said...: i also thoguth that heath (if he is alive )would not appear at the comic con, if they pulled it thus far, they would continue with it.

tamta; 7/28/2008 11:28 PM
Anonymous said...: i know come on 7/27 pelase just tell us something i really want to know if hes alivee im begging i cant stop thinking about be a pal

MAtt; 7/28/2008 11:42 PM
Anonymous said...: LOL that is funny what the 7/27 guy said. its ok though people, no more waiting just remember don't believe everything you read over the net.; 7/29/2008 12:51 AM
Anonymous said...: well 7/27 dude. everyone feels as if ur the man of this thread, thats obvious. either ur getting some kick out of our reactions to u or ur just playin a little game instead of just telling us straight up. Im gonna go ahead and assume that ur just some mean guy at home laughing at all of this because if something really did happen regarding heath ledger, u would have told us instead of leaving us here like this. confused and angered. so if u are for real then please give us another clue because i dont know where to look for answers; 7/29/2008 1:15 AM
Anonymous said...: 7/27 guy is a jerk he has no balls to say anything cause he is a liar and has no respect u mo fo say something if u have something to say.; 7/29/2008 12:38 PM
Anonymous said...: 7/27 guy, can you give us a clue?; 7/29/2008 2:50 PM
Anonymous said...: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qz6_vBAvLIA

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Anonymous said...: thanks for posting,, was the guy kind of laughing or was it just my imagination :D

tamta; 7/29/2008 3:52 PM
Anonymous said...: oo man that's getting my hopes up now! i don't think he would be very happy about it like he was if they were thinking about using another actor, right? cause think about it, heath was absolutely AMAZING, and i wouldn't be very happy if they used another actor; that would just ruin it.

dot; 7/29/2008 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Have you guys seen the last pictures of Heath alive?

http://www.golpo.net/forum/f22/last-photos-heath-ledger-alive-10838/

He looks pretty messed up, that's why even though I'm really hoping that his death was a hoax, I'm pretty sure it's not. I mean, look at him. That was three or four days before he was found dead... the guy looks like he hadn't slept in days.

Yes, it's wishful thinking... but who knows =(; 7/29/2008 4:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Well i think that maybe it's all faked. Some people started blaming his death to a depression, so maybe they wanted this image of him. Why is he laying donw in the street in the last pic? hmm

tamta; 7/29/2008 4:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Hmm
that youtube video..
i like it.
i just wish there was more
i must do some research in my spare time; 7/29/2008 4:29 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah tamta, i saw that picture of him laying down too; not sure what that's about.

dot; 7/29/2008 4:32 PM
Anonymous said...: I was just thinking, I don't know it caught my attention, the writer said, "I think if he were still around" He didn't say alive, but I could just be delusional. Lol I'm pooped from all this, and all this thinking over the same thing is making my brain hurt. I'm running out of thoughts. Dx; 7/29/2008 8:24 PM
jglc said...: ZOMG WTF BBQ INTARNETT!!; 7/29/2008 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...: 7/27, he could mean that heath did the other movie before he passed. so that isnt anything great.; 7/29/2008 8:47 PM
Anonymous said...: 7/27 guy. seeing as how 7/27 is over is there something else we can call u. this is kinda cool. i like the clues and stuff but i dont have the time to figure all of this out so please please please can somebody look into this and try to figure this out. i believe this is the biggest forum about this subject, and i am glad to have found it. but i cant do this and i would love it if some other people really tried to crack this thing thing open; 7/29/2008 9:29 PM
Anonymous said...: http://www.topix.com/forum/who/heath-ledger/TR8EV3E6VRALCBEAB/p2

here is the link to the forum, where some people think that heath is alive...

tamta; 7/29/2008 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, he did seem to be somewhat laughing and was obviously hiding something.. but whether it was important or not... Also, I doubt that was planned being it was just a question, so if anything were supposed to happen on 7/27 that was planned ahead of time... I don't think that's it. Especially being that video was added to Youtube on 7/26. You're losing the little credibility you ever had with me Mr. 7/27 :(.
-Dalton; 7/29/2008 10:28 PM
Anonymous said...: So that's what I found out. Obviosuly this person thinks that heath now lives in new zealand.

") His family wasn't allowed to see the body
2) It was right before the "Dark Knight" premier
3) The combination he took doesn't normally killl people, in fact those antidepressants are designed to make it very difficult for the user to overdose to commit suicide. They could potentially take a month's worth of pills without dying.
4) Why such great timing? And why such great timing with the Christian Bale domestic dispute?
5) Why is Mary-Kate strangely silent about the case, and won't even speak to say her grievances?
6) He said something before dying about it being "The most fun I've ever had filming a movie.... no the most fun I'll EVER have doing a movie." Was this his way of saying he was planning to quit the industry?
7) He loved New Zealand and there's between a 70-% and 80% chance he's hiding there."

here is the link
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaopabb-support-a.html; 7/29/2008 10:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Guys, he's dead. So sad to say, but it's true. Why would he pull such a stunt? For promoting the movie? Give me a break. The agony was apparent on his loved one's faces, and not all of them were actors/actresses.

I read a creepy article recently, about Michelle Williams talking about Heath's ghost haunting her. Dunno if it's real or not, but there's a ton of websites stating the same information, check it out.

http://www.theinsider.com/news_event/833836_Michelle_Williams_Haunted_By_Heath_Ledger_s_Ghost; 7/29/2008 11:10 PM
Anonymous said...: 7/27 guy? What is this whole stunt thing you are talking about? Does it have to be something with Heath Ledger being alive, or something about the Joker? I'm just so confused on what to think. Dx; 7/29/2008 11:37 PM
Anonymous said...: yea come on 7/27 guy im really annoyed give us 1 more little hint pleaseeee im begging i wanna know; 7/29/2008 11:48 PM
Anonymous said...: Look at this, this guy is REALLY stupid..
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4636849a1870.html
He dressed up as the Joker and tried to pull a stunt. O.o; 7/30/2008 2:10 AM
Anonymous said...: is anybody actually trying to figure out the last clue we got. if not then why ask for another
-Deak; 7/30/2008 2:13 AM
Anonymous said...: Well the Last clue doesn't make any sense, the writer answered a question about Heath Ledger as the Joker, and I still don't understand if this whole 7/27 is talking about Heath, or the Joker. Or if the Joker is going to be replaced, or maybe the writer is hiding something. And the 7/27 guy said that was just something small of what happened at the comic-con. There was a much bigger happening. It's not adding up, I can't figure out what this is all meaning. Maybe just a SHARPER clue would help, maybe not an obvious one, but one that is more understandable with one answer. Not multiple answers, just one.; 7/30/2008 2:36 AM
Anonymous said...: Or if the 7/27 is just talking about the writer of Batman The Dark Knight's reaction to the question, or was it the question asked? Or was it the event with the writer?; 7/30/2008 2:38 AM
Anonymous said...: There are so many possibilities.
=/; 7/30/2008 2:41 AM
Anonymous said...: LET THE MAN RIP! Jeez, this is ridiculous!!; 7/30/2008 2:41 AM
Anonymous said...: http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=9505

its the last sentence that got me. were they talking about the dark knight or were they talking about the possible 3rd movie.

Im checking out the links of the video clue. maybe something there i guess

-Deak; 7/30/2008 2:44 AM
Anonymous said...: Goyer is denying nothing and telling nothing. its a little suspicious. He's talking almost like heath isnt dead and nothing he sez implies completely that he is.; 7/30/2008 2:51 AM
Anonymous said...: There is no reasonable sense why anyone would fake their own death. You must just admit and believe that he is really dead and is not coming back. No use living with high hopes.; 7/30/2008 5:53 AM
Anonymous said...: It really doesn't have to be about high hopes. Honestly I don't know what to believe and I think we should have a little clarity. You have to admit looking for clues and trying to figure out a mystery whatever way the "case" ends. There are lots of possibilities about what is being implied. The only TRUE fact I know is that Heath Ledger is an amazing actor. Whether he is dead or alive we have to deal with it. I want to know sooo badly what the 27 guy is talking about. I want to know the truth. I guess we have to wait and see. I dunno. Seriously though, 27 help oout a little bit if in fact you do know something. Not anything big I would love to be able to solve a mystery but you need some evidence for it to be solved. I dunno. Message me if anybody knows something big and make the subject something to do with this whole thing.
[email protected]
thanks.; 7/30/2008 1:30 PM
Anonymous said...: I just watched the video on youtube somebody made. And there was this poster that said RIP and joker (heath) was standing. I just found it pretty weird.. check it out at 3:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKmPdshqbA

tamata; 7/30/2008 1:43 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm fairly certain that Mr. 7/27 was implying that heath (the joker) is still alive.. being that's what he started out talking about in the beginning and that's what started the whole speculation on 7/27. Just seems to me he's running out of stuff to say cuz he really had no proof to begin with and is now linking to videos from 7/26 when we ask for a clue about what happened on 27 that he was talking about..
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 2:12 PM
Anonymous said...: yea mr 7/27 has nothing to say hes running out of stuff ur rite last time he was posting like crazy now look he got nothing to write cause hes a no good liar .; 7/30/2008 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Someone please give me some valid reasoning as to why Mr. Ledger would 'fake' his death. Promoting the movie and getting out of the limelight is bs.

Why can't you all accept that he's dead? He passed away, sadly, and he's never coming back.

So, if someone wants to argue it, or try to say otherwise, bring it on.

-runive; 7/30/2008 2:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Hmmm... reasons that we think he could be faking it. I'll take the ones off the top of my head. Someone already posted these
") His family wasn't allowed to see the body
2) It was right before the "Dark Knight" premier
3) The combination he took doesn't normally killl people, in fact those antidepressants are designed to make it very difficult for the user to overdose to commit suicide. They could potentially take a month's worth of pills without dying.
4) Why such great timing? And why such great timing with the Christian Bale domestic dispute?
5) Why is Mary-Kate strangely silent about the case, and won't even speak to say her grievances?
6) He said something before dying about it being "The most fun I've ever had filming a movie.... no the most fun I'll EVER have doing a movie." Was this his way of saying he was planning to quit the industry?
7) He loved New Zealand and there's between a 70-% and 80% chance he's hiding there."
And to add
8) He played the Joker, a villian who ALWAYS appears to have died but never does.
9)The joker faked his death in the movie, as did Gordon, and it's also a simillar circumstance to The Prestige
10)The taglines for The Dark Knight were Why So Serious? and Not All Jokes are Funny and a secret code in whysoserious.com says "Made you look"
11)The body in heath's body bag was way too small and the officer who saw it said there's no way that's Heath.
12)Whysoserious.com has one of the items on the todo list mentioning faking own death also.
and those are just a few off the top of my head.. Not saying it's guranteed he faked it but there is alot of stuff pointing to it. As to why? I dunno, I'm not Heath.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...: its not politics its speculation^^

7/27 guy seems as if he may actually be for real after that last thing he sed so we should all stop saying he's a liar and see if we cant figure out what hes talking about first.

-Deak; 7/30/2008 2:52 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm willing to consider 7/27 guy might not be lying but it seems a bit fishy. The whole time he was TaLKiNg LiKe thIS and saying stuff about 7/27. Then after 7/27 rolls around and we ask for a clue about what happened.. he links us a video from 7/26.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 3:00 PM
Anonymous said...: i think mr. 7/27 is enjoying what he created.

i'm sick of people telling us he's dead. just let us speculate. why should you care anyway? if you think he's dead, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. but so are we.

dot; 7/30/2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...: So dot... if he faked his death, then why was his family so upset about everything? Why wouldn't he have come out and admitted it was a ploy already? It's been pretty long. And , since he hasn't, when would he do so?

Wouldn't that ruin his career? Can you imagine how many angry people there would be?

Look at all of the celebrities/programs honoring him after his death.. He's long gone.; 7/30/2008 3:22 PM
Anonymous said...: i'm not saying he IS dead. i'm saying we're free to question it. but if it's all an act, his family would be acting upset. and maybe he's never going to come out. yes it might ruin his career but it might not. and yeah people would be angry, but some people would just be happy that he's alive. but maybe he is dead. i don't know, that's why i'm here

dot; 7/30/2008 3:29 PM
Anonymous said...: oops, i meant to say that i'm not saying he ISN'T dead; 7/30/2008 3:29 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm not dot but I'll respond also. Firstly, most of his family, and those that were close to him, don't seem very upset at all. They actually all seem quite happy and celebrating at the pics of the funeral. And Mary-Kate seems unusually not depressed also (see http://www.popcrunch.com/mary-kate-olsen-unemotional-after-death-of-heath-ledger/)
And the few that do seem upset like his wife (an actor) are either in on it or don't know about the ploy (most likely) and should be upset. Secondly, why would he already come out and admit it was a ploy. If you were gonna go through the trouble of something this big you would wait for something big, like the Oscars or something, to end it. No, it wouldn't ruin his career, and in fact would probobly boost it being it would be the biggest stunt in Hollywood ever. I personally would think he was an even greater actor. And I'm not sure about what programs honoring him you are talking about and it's actually very odd that there wasn't a memorial for him either before or after the movie at all.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 3:35 PM
Anonymous said...: There was an E! program recognizing Ledger and his life. Dalton, what are the odds that he's alive, would you say? I mean, they showed him in a body bag. Where would he be? Doctors released information about the autopsy, for crying out loud!; 7/30/2008 4:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes but there were no pictures, and i have seen pictures of autopsy of celebrities that are dead.

tamta; 7/30/2008 4:14 PM
Anonymous said...: Not ALL deceased celebs have pics of their dead bodies released, you know. If heath indeed did fake his dead, where would he be living? And idunno about you, but his parents looked pretty damn sad about the news. HE'S DEAD!!!; 7/30/2008 4:43 PM
Anonymous said...: geez stop freaking out. if you think we're that stupid for thinking about it a little, just leave the forum!; 7/30/2008 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...: It just ticks me off because I love the guy as an actor and you guys are so set on him being alive. I just feel bad for him and i feel terrible myself cause I really want him to be alive still; 7/30/2008 5:01 PM
Anonymous said...: well sorry, we all love him, that's why we're here! it just was so sudden and it seems like there's more to it; 7/30/2008 5:07 PM
Anonymous said...: again we are entitled to our own opinions, and some of us think that there are is more to it than just him being dead. so if some of you do not agree with us leave the forum, do not judge us :)

tamta; 7/30/2008 5:17 PM
Anonymous said...: If he didn't die, then why are the cast/crew of TDK so upset about it? Well, it seems like that, anyways. Christian Bale and Aaron and Christopher Nolan have paid respects to him and are talking about what a fantastic actor he was to work with... they seem geniunely saddened by the sudden loss..; 7/30/2008 5:19 PM
Anonymous said...: I think we are beating a dead horse guys, I have been in this forum since the beginning, and we still haven't gotten any clear clues. Seriously, its been the same thing over and over, and actually those pills he took can really screw up your system and kill you. He took too many at the same time, and it made a chemical reaction in his brain and it effected his whole system. It shut down his heart because sedatives make you in a such relaxed state that he fell asleep and his heart just stopped beating. I love Heath a lot and have suffered emotionally from his death, but I just think he is gone. He didn't look very happy near the end, and especially in interviews. And he also had pneumonia, which is an invitation from dying from overdoses. And pneumonia can kill you anyway.

We all loved Heath, he will always be around. Just not alive.
R.I.P Heath Ledger
<3
-Kel; 7/30/2008 5:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Kel, yes that's what bothers me too. how he was depressed, and saying he could not sleep. But again i just think there is something more to it.

tamta; 7/30/2008 5:46 PM
Anonymous said...: You all are going to look like fools years from now when Heath is still dead.

RIP.; 7/30/2008 6:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, if you can find an autopsy somewhere I'd be interested because that's one of the other many things people find odd. Also, on top of there being a low chance of the drugs killing someone, no drug residue was found in the area he died at all. Plus, had it been the drugs there would have been puke or something from his body rejecting the large overdose. Besides, in order to take enough to be lethal he would have to be conciously trying to kill himself. But as far as where he would live? How the heck would I know? There are alot of possibilities. You say we're disrespecting him somehow by theorizing he may still be alive, but as far as I see it, I only theorize cuz I do respect him. If Heath were someone I didn't care about I'd not be on any forums.. but I also wouldn't call people stupid or flame them for having their opinions.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 6:08 PM
Anonymous said...: It wasn't necessarily a large dose of meds that killed him, I hope you realize. He took the right doses. The problem was, he took pills for anxiety, depression and insomnia... and they weren't meant to be mixed. The result was fatal and he unfortunately passed away. And as far as the 'low chance of drugs killing him'... are you kidding? He was sick with walking pneumonia, so his immune system was already weakened. Add the lethal combination of mixed pills and his body has no power to stand up to it.

It's really quite sad, because ultimately, all the guy was trying to do was feel better. To get some sleep. It was an accident... and so terrible.

I really want to wish Heath was alive, but the negatives add up more than the positives when it comes to it.; 7/30/2008 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...: It wasn't necessarily a large dose of meds that killed him, I hope you realize. He took the right doses. The problem was, he took pills for anxiety, depression and insomnia... and they weren't meant to be mixed. The result was fatal and he unfortunately passed away. And as far as the 'low chance of drugs killing him'... are you kidding? He was sick with walking pneumonia, so his immune system was already weakened. Add the lethal combination of mixed pills and his body has no power to stand up to it.

It's really quite sad, because ultimately, all the guy was trying to do was feel better. To get some sleep. It was an accident... and so terrible.

I really want to wish Heath was alive, but the negatives add up more than the positives when it comes to it.; 7/30/2008 6:13 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't know. I'm more likely to believe the examiners and professionals who say that there is an abnormally low chance of the drugs he took killing him. I'm sure they know more about his body and condition and are smart enough to put information together.
And from what I see.. the positives are actually far more than the negatives. Inconclusive studies, no info released, family not allowed to see the body, the 20 other things mentioned. If even one definitive thing were released, like an autopsy, I'm sure it would quiet most all speculation.
Now again, I'm not saying he is definitively alive, but it's always a possibility and there's alot of stuff pointing to it.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 6:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Your responses really intrigue me, Dalton (no sarcasm).. because I'm praying almost every night that Ledger is not dead.

Can you provide more insight into this? Why do you think he would do such a thing?

And how do you know about inconclusive studies? And why didn't the family see his body? Who was in the body bag?

I'm really intrigued, seriously. You sort of are switching me, but I just need more clues...; 7/30/2008 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...: I mean the closest chance for Heath being alive is like 10%! We don't have any solid evidence supporting that he is in fact alive. And also, Heath probably didn't take them all at the same time, he probably just took some during the night, and then woke up a few hours later, took his other medication, and it just got all mixed like how that guy above Dalton said. And its really depressing how it was all just an accident, he didn't mean to die, he was just wanting to feel better. Thats what hits me hard, is that, it was just an accident,he didn't want to die. But my point is, we don't have anything solid to stand on, and the autopsy was basically telling us which medication was in his system at the time he died. So, I don't know. And the 7/27 guy isn't talking, and he was the person I was really believing in with this whole thing. He isn't talking and my brain is in reality. =/; 7/30/2008 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...: And oops! That last comment was from me, -Kel
Forgot to put my name on it xP; 7/30/2008 6:40 PM
Anonymous said...: hey guys did you know about it?
Heath Ledger’s father Kim Ledger, who is sorting out his deceased son’s estate, has discovered that Heath’s prized 1975 green Volkswagen van was stolen around the time of his death, and his father desperately wants it back, reports TMZ.

Kim reported the stolen van to Australian police last Friday. Heath had reportedly given the van to a long-time friend for safekeeping when he moved to the U.S. from Australia.

Because of Heath’s celebrity and mass vehicle upgrades, the van is now valued at $70,000

tamta; 7/30/2008 6:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Tamata, thats so sad! Why would someone do that? What jerks!; 7/30/2008 7:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Tamta*
Gosh I can't spell today.; 7/30/2008 7:01 PM
Anonymous said...: As far as why, I can't say. People have said for publicity for the movie, for privacy, to quit his career. Others have made creepy responses saying he's alive but we're so far off from why that it's funny. I myself would do it just for the heck of it.
As to the inconclusive studies, just do a google search for "Heath Ledger autopsy" and you'll just get "inconclusive, inconclusive, inconclusive" allover. Results were supposed to be provided like 12 days later but never were. I don't know why the family wasn't allowed to see the body, but that's one of the reasons, among many others, that people doubt his death.
Now, I will agree, we really have no actual evidence of him being alive except for supposed pictures of him and "witnesses" that have supposedly seen him or worked in the conspiracy. But pictures can be faked and people can lie. All we really have is that there isn't any real proof that he isn't alive either. No autopsy, no pics of him dead, etc. And then there's all the "clues" and connections and his roles that lead people to speculate. I'm realistic, chances are that he's dead, but it's always a possibility and I'm gonna wonder about it until he reappears or something conclusive is released. I'll probably stop being concerned about it during the Oscars, cuz that is when I'd reappear if I were him. Or at the very most, until the next Batman movie. :D
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...: I think all the facts/comments made on here ae all strong views and im dead confused...i have no idea if hes alive dead...i think there would be a lot of backlash if he wasnt dead and was faking the lot...hed loose a lot of fans and respect...the 7/27 guy speaks sort of liek the joker in a way did anyone else think that??; 7/30/2008 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah I noticed that about the 7/27 guy, but I think he knows that he does. He's just trying to get us riled up or something. But I have noticed that when he was putting his clues and telling us how many days it was until 7/27 and stuff. =/
-Kel; 7/30/2008 7:59 PM
Anonymous said...: Also, Dalton, when they meant "inconclusive", they meant about how he died. They later found that it was the mix of prescription medication. They didn't know until a few days later. They had to do whole sorts of tests to determine how he died.
-Kel; 7/30/2008 8:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey you guys!! I don't know if any of you have really noticed this, but on whysoserious.com when "The Joker" vandalized the Gotham Times, right here http://www.thehahahatimes.com/ He circled letters in some of the articles. And I came up with some words! I don't know if I can put them in a certain order but can anyone else try to figure it out? I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the movie the words I found.
-Kel; 7/30/2008 8:07 PM
Anonymous said...: it also says the funniest ways of dying :D

tamta; 7/30/2008 8:46 PM
Anonymous said...: i don't know what to do, i'm sitting at my comp crying over a guy i never met. i miss him so much...; 7/30/2008 8:54 PM
Anonymous said...: They're nothing. The puzzles spelled out things such as "MADE YOU LOOK AGAIN", "NOTHING HERE", "RED HERRING", and "SERIOUSLY HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GONNA FALL FOR THIS"
Also, yes I know the inconclusive referred to the cause of death. That is one of the things that was odd. What was even more odd is that the conclusive info was supposed to be released about 12 or so days later but never was.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 8:58 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh, also, currently on thehahahatimes the letters spell out something like
"Herrings are red
Corpses are blue
You're on the right track
But you don't have the clue"
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 9:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh thats really cool Dalton!
Thanks for explaining it to me, it wasn't making any sense how to put them in order lol.
And for this person..
"Anonymous said...

i don't know what to do, i'm sitting at my comp crying over a guy i never met. i miss him so much...
7/30/2008 8:54 PM"
I am the same way too, I think its just because he's one of those people that just leave a huge impact. I was completely bawling over him, I didn't even know him. =/
-Kel; 7/30/2008 9:10 PM
Anonymous said...: http://batman.wikibruce.com/Home

check this site out
tamta; 7/30/2008 9:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Woah, all of your guy's points are so good! We're sorta already doing this, but the forum people should work together to figure this is out, if it is anything. There are just too many parallels and coincidences for it not to mean something (but not necessarily whether or not he's alive). But then again, it is always good to be objective... and OMG I totally know what you mean about feeling like you've lost a friend and crying over someone you don't know...I think a lot of people feel that way. I know I do...; 7/30/2008 9:29 PM
Anonymous said...: I've always loved Heath. A Knight's Tale is one of my definite favorite movies of all time. I never saw Brokeback but... well it got awards so.. lol. But mostly the fact that he did the most amazing job ever as the Joker and is possibly one of the best characters ever played. The Joker is now my idol haha. Which is funny being my nickname is Batman (long story) :D.
-Dalton; 7/30/2008 10:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Thats a cool site Tamta!
Its showing us the game that the people played lol.
And Dalton, lol the Joker is my idol too. xD Even if I am a girl lol.
I just think that Heath is one of my heros, he's an amazing actor, always. =)
-Kel; 7/30/2008 10:34 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't feel so weird anymore. I cried too. For a while actually. I pray every night as well. It may seem odd, and no disrespect intended but it makes me feel better knowing that there is a slight possibility. 27 guy really needs to speak up. I've asked before but PLEASE mr 27 guy PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE with a cherry on top, say something. Acknowledge your presence. Make a statement. I dunno. PUH LEASEEEEEEE. Anyway, whysoserious.com those clues are really weird. And Heath has been one of my heros. I've loved his movies since I was younger..don't get me wrong I'm only 15 but still I have loveeeeed his movies. Good idea. We all have to work together if we are gonna settle this.

PS
i dont sign the bottom of what i write. it's at the beginning; 7/30/2008 11:15 PM
Anonymous said...: i agree about everything you've all been talking about, totally. i've seen the dark knight six times now, and i can't get enough. heath is amazing as the joker. and we do need to try to figure this out together.

dot; 7/31/2008 12:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Yo. Shoutout to Anonymous at 9:29!

Missing Heath and his incredibly adorable dimples..

"Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want. Go for it."
-Heath Ledger in "10 Things I Hate About You"; 7/31/2008 1:00 AM
Anonymous said...: and back to the www.thehahahatimes.com when i take the circled letters i do get "herrings are red" but the word "party" is circled too. whats up with that?? and seriously what is up with all of the different joker sites. what do they all mean?????

-Deak; 7/31/2008 3:34 AM
Anonymous said...: They are mostly all connected to a very very long game that was played Pre Dark Knight. That website dot linked, http://batman.wikibruce.com/Home, pretty much goes through all of it and all of the sites. Most all of the websites that were used during the game then had jokerized versions made of them also.
There are actually 4 pages to thehahahatimes too. At the top right hand corner you can choose between them. The circled words right now... are crazy. If you look 4 words to the right of the circled word, and then look at the 2nd letter of that word, all the letters you get will spell out "red balloons".
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 7:47 AM
Anonymous said...: woah! check this out!

http://www.teenspot.com/boards/showthread.html?t=467614

look at the comment right at the top.; 7/31/2008 9:55 AM
Anonymous said...: i saw it too, he does not even have a brother :)

tamta; 7/31/2008 9:58 AM
Anonymous said...: http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/31/no-joke-heaths-ex-spotted-with-new-man/

got new bf?

tamta; 7/31/2008 10:01 AM
Anonymous said...: http://entertainment.iafrica.com/news/1056600.htm
deep as ridller and hoffman as penguin :D; 7/31/2008 10:04 AM
Anonymous said...: guys look at # 2

http://www.whysoserious.com/

tamta; 7/31/2008 10:21 AM
Anonymous said...: sorry # 13 and 14 too :d; 7/31/2008 10:23 AM
Anonymous said...: sorry # 13 and 14 too :d; 7/31/2008 10:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Right, and look at the date by number 2. 7/27. That's one of the main reasons that everyone figured something big would happen on 7/27... also that card game 7-27. You can click on all of the things on the to-do list to see what they were linked to with the game. But they are a cause of suspicion and several do seem like they could have a double use.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 12:24 PM
Anonymous said...: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message493500/pg1

pretty interesting stuff check it out :)

tamta; 7/31/2008 1:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Nice finds people.
Check this out

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/03/08/2008-03-08_heath_ledger_assets_go_to_parents_siblin.html

I like researching.
=]; 7/31/2008 1:45 PM
Anonymous said...: Yesterday, when asked about Ledger's death, Jack Nicholson chuckled strangle and said only, "I warned him."

was he warning him not to fake his own death?

dot; 7/31/2008 2:06 PM
Anonymous said...: i got that from http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message493500/pg1
btw

dot; 7/31/2008 2:06 PM
Anonymous said...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERaS76mQqjE

tamta; 7/31/2008 2:26 PM
Anonymous said...: No, he warned him about the sleeping pill 'Ambien'. Here's his exact quote:

"I tell people about Ambien. Somebody said 'Take this, it's mild'. I almost drove off a cliff 50 yards from my house."

Need proof I didn't make that up? Here ya go. Sorry, but it had nothing to do with a 'faked death'.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/01/24/jack-nicholson-i-warned-heath-ledger-89520-20296576/

RIP Heath Ledger.; 7/31/2008 2:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Tamta - That video was made as a joke. The creator of the video states that it's a joke and that he can't believe that so many 'dumbasses' believe it. Look through the video creator's comments, you'll see.

I'm in awe myself. Let him rest in peace, please.; 7/31/2008 2:36 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't necessarily believe in numerology at all. Only way that would be relevant would be if those behind the conspiracy purposely timed his death and such that way.
What I do find interesting is Nicholson's comment though. And no, I'm fairly certain he wasn't talking about Ambien. When he was informed of Heath's death he simply said "That's awful. I warned him" and refused to elaborate. It wasn't until much later when he brought up warning people about Ambien. He also says in that quote that he didn't know Heath Ledger. How could he warn him about something like taking pills when he didn't even know he was.
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,325208,00.html)
What makes more sense is if he either warned him about a fake death plan or warned him about how playing the joker can affect you. Also note, Nicholsen says he was "furious" that he wasn't asked to play the Joker and how big of a deal it was to him. Maybe he "warned" him as in a threat?
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 2:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Jack Nicholson had nothing to do with Heath Ledger's death. Yes, he was furious about not being offered the role as the Joker in TDK, but he didn't do anything about it.

He warned him about Ambien. In the beginning, he claimed that he warned him about how playing a role such as the Joker can emotionally drain a person, considering all of the stamina and energy it requires. He later changed his warning to Ledger and said that it dealt with Ambien.

Either one does not suggest a faked death. Heath Ledger, God bless his soul, is no longer on earth with us.; 7/31/2008 2:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Again, all he said was "I warned him" and refused to elaborate. Seems a bit fishy that he wouldn't explain then "Yeah I told him not to take Ambien cuz of my stupid car story" or "I told him about how playing the Joker can affect you". Instead, he refused to explain.
Later he mentioned telling him about playing the Joker and (as you said yourself) later changed it to he warned him about Ambien. Sounds more like a coverup to me. Ofcourse, neither one of those suggests a fake death or foul play, because when you make up stories that's the point.
Also, he said himself he didn't know Heath. How could he warn him about taking Ambien if he didn't know he was. Unless he's just a nutjob that walks up to random famous people saying "Hey, don't take Ambien. It makes you tell crazy car stories"
And how do you know he wasn't involved? Just because you're not caught doesn't mean you're not involved.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 2:56 PM
Anonymous said...: So you really think Heath is still alive, eh? -Sigh-, there's no way of convincing you conspiracy addicts. I just don't understand why you can't face reality..; 7/31/2008 2:59 PM
Anonymous said...: the person who responded:
i put the link, it does not mean that i believe it or not. so stop criticizing us pleasee.; 7/31/2008 3:01 PM
Anonymous said...: then stop trying; 7/31/2008 3:03 PM
Anonymous said...: you are so set on heath being dead that you don't even leave room for any questions

i'm not sure if he's dead or alive, that's why i'm on the forum; 7/31/2008 3:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Conspiracy addicts? We're just not as likely to believe every single thing we see or hear, especially on the media. What's wrong with a little theorizing? As I've said several times, realistically, Heath is probably dead. But there is a chance, and there's alot of stuff pointing to him being alive or something else strange going on. As far as there being "no way of convincing" us, that's completely untrue. The reason there is so much doubt out there is the fact that there is nothing out there to prove he's dead. No autopsy released, no pictures of his death, etc. If anything like that were released it would convince alot of people. But when you give me nothing, it's not going to convince me. And facing reality? How can you face it when no one knows what it is. There's always another possibility. I'd say what the problem is would be people unable to open their mind to other possibilities, no matter what the chance is.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:05 PM
Anonymous said...: yes if he faked his death i am very sure someone would have spotted him around. that man is gone. i thought maybe he was, but if you look hard enough you can make clues yourself, and start to believe. i hope all of you will realize that now.; 7/31/2008 3:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Actually, alot of people and pictures claim to have seen him around. The only reason we don't cite those is the fact that they aren't good proof and people can lie and pictures can be faked. If you look, and in this case not very hard, you'll see that there are FAR more clues pointing to something more going on than what we're told.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:09 PM
Anonymous said...: i don't see what problem you have with us; 7/31/2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...: dngrzn01

so you think that he would be so stupid to start walking around? do not forget that he had lived for one month in a hotel room for the movie..

tamta; 7/31/2008 3:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Also a good point. If something this big were to be done, those involved wouldn't be stupid enough to make a mistake like letting Heath be found. That's why even though I believe it's possible he's alive, I doubt any pictures I've found of him still alive.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:11 PM
Anonymous said...: There are a lot of things pointing more in the direction that he's more likely dead than alive right now.

1.) Michelle had left him and had taken their daughter with them before he died. That's emotionally tolling on a person.

2.) Someone posted the pictures on here a day or two ago of Heath days before his death. He looked sick, depressed, and just terrible in general.

3.) They had videos and pictures of his body being taken out in a body bag. It looked to be a tall body, like Heath, and seemed to be his build.

4.) He had mentioned in an interview how much trouble he was having sleeping. He said that he'd slept on average 2 hours/night and that his mind was constantly racing. The guy was completely losing it.

5.) His parents have spoken on video clips about their agony over losing their son. And as for the private 10 person funeral? I don't blame them for wanting a more intimate setting.

6.) A cast/crew member that worked with Heath said that he had walking pneumonia. Under the right cirumstances, that can lead to death, as well.

I know that you're open to all possibilities, but let's think seriously now. Heath Ledger passed away at age 28 because he was sick, had sleep and anxiety problems, and was depressed. To try to make himself feel better, he took pills that weren't supposed to be combined. The combination of the medications unfortunately killed him, hopefully peacefully.

He was a brilliant actor and a seemingly wonderful person. Let's just hope that he's in a better place, continue to remember him through the movies, and pay respect to him by letting him rest in peace.; 7/31/2008 3:12 PM
Anonymous said...: So.. you listed 6 points. Nowhere near the upper 30 or so even better points that point to something else going on. And several of your points support our side. For example, the body bag is one point for our side. It was way too small and didn't resemble Heath and an officer who saw the body in it said there's no way it was Heath. As for the others, they're not really supporting our side but there are easy explanations. Obviously you'd want to appear sick and MAKE A POINT TO TALK ABOUT IT IN INTERVIEWS shorly before you "die" (like he did). His wife was an actor. His parents and most of his family weren't in on it so they should be upset. There is only one account of his supposed walking pneumonia and examiners said they doubted he had pneumonia. Etc.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:17 PM
Anonymous said...: if heath faked his death, these reasons could easily be explained as part of the ploy. i don't think that speculating about his death is stopping him from resting in peace if he is really dead. if so, elvis and tupac would be really pissed off; 7/31/2008 3:18 PM
Anonymous said...: cause elvis and tupac are stil alive, too! you guys are whack jobs.; 7/31/2008 3:20 PM
Anonymous said...: i don't think you understood what i said..; 7/31/2008 3:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, as to disturbing his resting in peace... I laugh at that. I think any true fan of Heath's would be proud to partake in discussion here and keep his memory alive.And if he is dead I'm certain that Heath would be proud to have made such an impact and caused forums such as these. Few famous people could achieve that.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:21 PM
Anonymous said...: exactly; 7/31/2008 3:22 PM
Anonymous said...: Ermmm.... firstly. It's POSSIBLE that Elivs and/or Tupac are still alive... But secondly, you're an idiot for thinking that they meant they were. They were saying that if theorizing about someone's death would disturb their rest then Elvis and Tupac would be pissed.; 7/31/2008 3:23 PM
Anonymous said...: yes thank you; 7/31/2008 3:26 PM
Anonymous said...: it's possible for elvis and tupac to be alive? i understood your question, by the way, i'm simply being sarcastic.

elvis is DEAD. tupac is DEAD. HEATH LEDGER IS DEAD.

you will all look like such fools when mr. ledger doesn't make his expected appearance at the oscars or in a third film. such idiots, you all are.; 7/31/2008 3:26 PM
Anonymous said...: you're the one wasting your time; 7/31/2008 3:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Again, you refuse to see that things aren't always what they appear. Someday YOU will feel like a fool when you realize that half of what you thought wasn't true. Look, if you're too blind to see that there are other possibilities beyond the "obvious" and are so set on Heath being dead (which is strange and morbid) then please leave. You're contributing nothing to the discussion except for anger and a waste of time.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:28 PM
Anonymous said...: oooops, i've been forgetting to put my name on pretty much all of my recent ones

dot; 7/31/2008 3:38 PM
Anonymous said...: Holy Shmoly, you guys are fast! I had to catch up with you all, and read and go to everything you guys posted! A lot of this new insight is really interesting!! And I thought the article about Heath being a cover up for mass destruction weapon for the governmen. I don't remember who posted that but I just think that would be really creepy if it was true.
-Kel; 7/31/2008 3:40 PM
Anonymous said...: i don't think they would need a cover up

dot; 7/31/2008 3:41 PM
Anonymous said...: And also, I don't know guys, I just feel like we're not getting anywhere, with this. There is only one spark of hope in my heart that Heath is still alive, but then again, my brain just says, you know, he is gone. I mean, we have no solid evidence that he is alive. And, ugh, for that person who keeps on fighting with everyone, the person who thinks we are conspiracy addicts. You can just leave, let us waste OUR time. Its not YOUR time or life, its ours. I mean sure, if we get no where, then hahahaha, you can say, "I told you so". But right now, we don't really care because we are just thinking of possibilities. Lets us waste our time, you shouldn't care what we do or don't.
-Kel; 7/31/2008 3:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Yea, I'm not much into the theories of Heath being killed to draw the media's attention. Especially not for the government. There are a lot of larger celebrities that would have done the job even better. Plus that would imply that many people, such as the masseuse, Mary-Kate, and a lot of other people who were assume to be involved in him faking his death would be involved in killing him. I'm not gonna say these ideas aren't possible though cuz then I'm a hypocrite.
I'm more towards the fake-death conspiracy still if I'm to go for anything. Besides, that idea still has a lot more support than any other considering his role as the Joker who never dies but always appears to, has faked his own death in TDK and mentions it on whysoserious.com, the cast refusing to speak about his death, etc.
You're right, we aren't really getting much of anywhere. I don't suspect we will until he reveals himself or until nothing ever happens. lol. All we're doing is finding more clues in the media and such that support the idea that something else is going on. For example, I still find Nicholsen's comment that he then tries to cover up later odd.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:52 PM
Anonymous said...: What I really find intriguing.. is that a good amount of the additional support we've found didn't come from any conspiracy forums or websites. It was simply news. The writer in the video that appears to be hiding something about heath, Nicholsen simply saying "I warned him" and refusing to explain and then covering it up later, and even Britney Spears crazily saying heath is still here. It's all simply stuff that was reported in news that happen to support the idea that something else is going on.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 3:57 PM
Anonymous said...: i agree, i thought nicholsen's "i warned him" was odd.

i wish mr. 7/27 would show up.

dot; 7/31/2008 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...: There's too many people involved for it to be a faked death.; 7/31/2008 4:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Such as? There could be a lot less people involved than you think. If done right it could only involve a couple people. The rest who seem upset over the loss and such.. probably aren't in on it and should be upset being they think he is actually dead.; 7/31/2008 4:26 PM
Anonymous said...: the police, his whole family, loved ones and friends, cast and crew of previous films, doctors, etc...; 7/31/2008 4:31 PM
Anonymous said...: well we strayed away from 7/27 guys' last comment which was somewhat humbling though suspicious as he claims to know something more but wont tell anyone which could really be a big thing.

7/27 guy, if u there, we need someone to get us back on track. please say something!!

-Deak; 7/31/2008 4:36 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, more than half of those people are eliminated for the reason I already mentioned. "His whole family, loved ones and friends, cast and crew of previous films". All of them think he is dead and should therefore be upset about it. But notice how the family wasn't allowed to see his body and it was supposedly cremated? That means that none of those people ever actually saw him dead. All that leaves for people who need to be involved would be the people who carried "him" out and those who made the autopsy (which has never been released and there is no proof of). Also notice that an officer who actually did manage to see his "body" as it was being transported said there was no way it was him.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 4:38 PM
Anonymous said...: The cast of TDK went into great detail about the anguish they were feeling over the loss of heath and talked about how it was to work with him. Nolan said he wasn't sure what to do now that Heath's dead.

His family looked deeply sad, as well, there's no doubt in that.

If they didn't release the report, why did doctors give out the cause of death?

The AP reports that the New York City medical examiner has officially tagged his cause of death as an accidental overdose, caused by “acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine.” All of those are apparently drugs he had a prescription for and he was supposed to be taking. For whatever reason, he simply took too much of them all at once.

What the medical examiner isn’t saying is exactly how much of these drugs he had in his system. They’re still calling it an “accidental overdose”, so that would lead one to believe that it wasn’t the amount you’d see if someone was intentionally trying to commit suicide. Instead the examiner insists it was the cumulative effect of all those drugs together, which does seem to make it pretty clear that it was not something Ledger did on purpose.

http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity/Heath-Ledger-s-Cause-Of-Death-Made-Official-8740.html; 7/31/2008 4:42 PM
Anonymous said...: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Heath_Ledger's_death_might've_been_publicity_stunt,_police_suspects

check this out. found this long time ago but still.

tamta; 7/31/2008 4:44 PM
Anonymous said...: Again, DUH! The cast of TDK, his family, friends, etc. They SHOULD be upset and deeply sad because they think that Heath is dead because they're not in on it. Note (for a third time) that they weren't allowed to see the body and it was supposedly cremated (good way to get rid of it). That only leaves the medical examiner who would HAVE to be in on it and very possibly could be. Notice there, that an actual autopsy was never released or shown, his results were well overdue, and he still never gave exact amounts of the drugs that were in his body (as you mentioned). Those things considered it would seem pretty clear he could be involved.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 4:47 PM
Anonymous said...: Uncyclopedia is a joke website that has FAKE information. Direct from the site:

Uncyclopedia is an encyclopedia full of misinformation and utter lies. You might say it puts the "psych!" in "encyclopedia".

Do I have to explain everything to you? Freakin' gullible idiot.; 7/31/2008 4:47 PM
Anonymous said...: "Freakin' gullible idiot"

you are an idiot, and stop being rude.!!! so what i posted, if you do not want to read do not read !!!!!!!!

tamta; 7/31/2008 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Thats really strange Tamta, are you sure thats a true story? My brain isn't handling all this very well... Why didn't this story get out? Very interesting...
-Kel; 7/31/2008 4:53 PM
Anonymous said...: Lol. Why are people so stupid when reading your comments today tamta? First someone though by you saying "i don't think that speculating about his death is stopping him from resting in peace if he is really dead. if so, elvis and tupac would be really pissed off" that you thought elvis and tupac were alive. And now they think when you post an article from uncyclopedia for fun that you're a "Freakin' gullible idiot."
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 4:54 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh wait, that was dot earlier. Either way, these people are being abnormally stupid; 7/31/2008 4:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah, I didn't think it was right because, people can just put in what ever information they want. Like Wikipedia.
-Kel; 7/31/2008 4:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Kel-

As I've stated after tamta's post, unfortunately, the site 'uncyclopedia' purposely posts misinformation. It's not a true story, merely a sick kind of joke, although we all want it to be true. -sigh- never happened.; 7/31/2008 4:55 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm so confused. I wonder where the 7/27 guy is.
-Kel; 7/31/2008 4:57 PM
Anonymous said...: I think the 7/27 guy is having a great laugh at this. I'm pretty sure he was yanking all of our chains... leading us into thinking something big was gonna happen... then when it didn't, he bolted for the door. I doubt it was anything =(.; 7/31/2008 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...: kel
when i read i did not believe, because it would have been all over the news, but again why would someone even post like that.

tamta; 7/31/2008 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't really have any care for Mr. 7/27 anymore. He's called Mr. 7/27 because he insisted something would happen on that date. When nothing happened and we asked for a clue on what he was talking about he linked us a video from 7/26... :/. Ever since he hasn't spoken (probly cuz I pointed that out). If he does know something he'll have to give us some real information. But whether he was a jerk or not, it doesn't change the fact that there is a very large amount of wierd things, clues, lack of information, coverups, etc. out there showing that something wierd is probly going on.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 5:01 PM
Anonymous said...: What a jerk, why would he try to make us believe in something? And especially that he can see that we are all desperately trying to figure out if this is true or not. =(
-Kel
P.S. Sorry if I'm kinda behind in some of my posts, you guys are really fast lol xD; 7/31/2008 5:02 PM
Anonymous said...: kel
when i read i did not believe, because it would have been all over the news, but again why would someone even post like that.

tamta
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking when I read it. I thought, it should have been all over the news!
And some people are just so sick minded these days, its like there are no boundaries for them. =/
Kel; 7/31/2008 5:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Btw, I was gonna let you know that I have a lot of respect for you Kel. You are how any true Ledger fan should be. Your brain and normal "logic" dictates that Heath is probably dead, yet you are open-minded enough to realize there is a possibility something else is going on and have that "one spark of hope in your heart" that keeps you here talking with us. All of the haters who insist on Heath being dead but claim to love him need to take a note from you.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...: yeah, i agree. i just don't understand why people are SO set on him being dead.

dot; 7/31/2008 5:32 PM
Anonymous said...: That's a really good point, Dalton. If people have more solid proof of the man's death and think it's a bit sick and twisted to contemplate whether or not he faked his death for disturbing reasons, they are CLEARLY not fans. Because we all know that Heath Ledger has SO many reasons to fake his death and put the whole world in misery. So, that's a really good point. Not.

He was such a fantastic actor and really left an impact with TDK, and I can't imagine why he'd make so many people suffer like that. He was a very shy man and seemed very compassionate towards others, why would he do this?

Oh, and the fact that faking your death is illegal.

But good point, Dalton. You 'Heath is alive' believers (even if you believe a fraction of it) are better fans than us who believe that he's passed.

Nice one.; 7/31/2008 5:33 PM
Anonymous said...: wow, somone is bitter. may i ask how this is "sick and twisted"?

dot; 7/31/2008 5:38 PM
Anonymous said...: someone*; 7/31/2008 5:43 PM
Anonymous said...: Btw, I was gonna let you know that I have a lot of respect for you Kel. You are how any true Ledger fan should be. Your brain and normal "logic" dictates that Heath is probably dead, yet you are open-minded enough to realize there is a possibility something else is going on and have that "one spark of hope in your heart" that keeps you here talking with us. All of the haters who insist on Heath being dead but claim to love him need to take a note from you.
-Dalton
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Awww thanks Dalton!! Thats very sweet of you to say that about me! ^_^
I think that you all are the same about this too, thats why we're all working together! Thank you so much Dalton, that made me smile! ^_^
-Kel; 7/31/2008 5:46 PM
Anonymous said...: Lol, no problem. I just find people like that person who just went on a crazy rant a few messages above... disturbing. Firstly, they're obviously very close-minded and ignorant to not even consider that there are other possibilities for things. And being so set on someone being dead is kind of morbid :/. But, seems to me that any real fan would have that "spark of hope" you talked about. I think Heath would be proud, even if he is dead, to have people here discussing this and keeping his memory alive. I'd be kind of sad if I were him when people are like "maybe Heath is still alive" and others are like "No! He's dead! Moron!"
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 6:04 PM
Anonymous said...: Heath would not be happy with all of the attention this is getting. Obviously YOU weren't a huge fan either, because if you were, you'd know that he HATED having attention of any sort in the media. Speculation would probably not make him proud.

So that's my first comment.

Second thing I have to say... I know I sound like a crazy asshole, but can you try to see things from my perspective? I LOVE Heath to death, and TDK seriously brought me down. He was so fantastic in it and proved his capabilities are beyond what we expected, and then the realization that he's dead just crushes me. I really DO want him to be alive, and sometimes I think maybe he is. But then my power of logic takes over, typically upon seeing an article on his death or hearing about it on the news or whatnot, and I realize that the poor guy is gone. And it seriously kills me, cause his role in TDK has haunted me since I saw it. He was just so spectacular and amazing that it hurts to know he's dead, and all of this speculation ticks me off because I want him to be alive terribly but deep down I know that he's not.

So, I guess I apologize for being an ass or whatever, I just feel really emotional over the loss of him.; 7/31/2008 6:10 PM
Anonymous said...: Yeah I totally agree with the people who are being very objective! It is always good to be open. We should all try and gather all the links, clues, etc. that have been posted and place them all into one long post. I thought that maybe seeing all of it together might make us look at it from a different angle...what do you guys think?; 7/31/2008 6:11 PM
Anonymous said...: Actually, Heath said he LOVED the idea of being famous, he just hated not having his privacy with the press and such always bothering him. He loved privacy (one of the reasons people think he may have faked his death at the height of his career, not saying I think that's for sure what happened). I'm just saying that there's nothing wrong with us speculating or theorizing, especially with so many things saying something else is going on.

There's been absolutely no concrete evidence proving his death or that there isn't anything going on. Anything solid at all like an autopsy or pics of his body would silence the majority of people. But anywhere you look all you find is more shady evidence. I do admit, as I have several times already, that Heath is probably dead, but there is always a possibility of something else, especially with most everything saying there is.

Most of us are like you because we love him so much and hope that he's not gone and that's why we're here. You can say we're delusional and fooling ourselves, but there is always a chance that he's out there, and even if he never shows up I'll still always think there's a possibility he's on an island or another country somewhere, living peaceably and happily.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 6:31 PM
Anonymous said...: OH! Also, in response to whoever posted directly above me, I'm going to find any solid clues, information, and links I can find and sort through all the junk. Then I'm going to compile it all into a long list on my blog and use that as a reference for anytime some jerk asks wtf reasons we'd have for thinking he's possibly alive or flames us. I'll let you know as soon as I'm done and then take any input on anything I may have missed.
-Dalton; 7/31/2008 6:34 PM
Anonymous said...: Dalton--
I posted directly above you...thanks so much for doing that! whats the link for your blog?; 7/31/2008 6:40 PM
Anonymous said...: To the guy who posted at 6:10
I mean, I understand where you're coming from, it was really hard to deal with Heath being said to have died. I cried really hard, and the thing that hits me is that it was an accident. But I don't know, maybe I'm just naive but I kinda think that maybe there is something more. I'm just really blank with everything. And I agree with you Dalton,mostly everywhere you go, it has weird evidence. But it really hits home to think he is gone, but yet there is like a 10% possibility that he's alive.
-Kel; 7/31/2008 6:43 PM

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